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[schumj]

Quote: Originally Posted by da ThRONe

I think the reason everybody is complaining about the game still looking like NCAA 11 is because even though they improve the graphics it doesn't show during actual gameplay. Until they improve the players models drastically it will always look like the pervious year despite the actual graphic upgrades.

Yah it probably wouldn't be as bad if EA didn't hype up "presentation improvements" and only really add entrances and some end of quarter stuff, or hype "no more suction blocking" and still have some. I guess it don't matter as we will always complain and always expect more, which is the power of the consumer. Except I am powerless as I will always buy it unless a competitor passes it up (like NBA2K passed up NBA Live).

[shyvoodoo]

Quote: Originally Posted by georgiafan

I expected this place would meltdown and over react bc yall always do. I just didnt think it would happen this early. I think that might be a new record. http://www.operationsports.com/forum...040807_anz.jpg I think this is the game that some of yall need to go buy

hahahahahaha.. Post of the year!!!

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[JerseySuave4]

Quote: Originally Posted by da ThRONe

I think the reason everybody is complaining about the game still looking like NCAA 11 is because even though they improve the graphics it doesn't show during actual gameplay. Until they improve the players models drastically it will always look like the pervious year despite the actual graphic upgrades.

you're right but what i mean when i say it looks like NCAA 11 is that there wasn't any upgrades to the cameras or presentation other than espn style wipes. I like playing the game from this angle but i've come to the realization trying and playing with different cameras in games like NBA 2k, MLB the Show and Fifa that they need to have more camera options. That skycam that they have on a string, the classic look they have now, tv broadcast style, etc. It would really refresh the game. Even postplay coverage/celebration/etc needs to be improved. They need a more true to tv broadcast in the game.

[jwilphl]

All the pre-game looks new (for the most part, there were some recycled angles and cuts). Outside of that, the actual in-game presentation seemed identical to me, which is where the meat of the improvements should have been made. The gameplay looks improved, but the problem for me personally is my eyes focus on all the weird animations, and there are plenty of them. That said, it didn't surprise me. It is only one game though and still possibly pre-beta so it is difficult to fairly judge the content.

As I said before, I'm waiting to hear on any improvements to Dynasty. If nothing substantial has been done, which is probably more likely than not, I'll just pass again. I don't have a problem with the developers--they do good things and are trying to improve the game with what they have. That said, the engine is really flawed and needs an overhaul, and I would also be a fan of a two-year developmental cycle instead of one. So my only gripes are with EA and the foundation of the game.

For all those saying it looks like '11 too much, what do you expect? That's what happens when you have a year to do a "new" game. You have to recycle the core of the game over and over because there isn't time to fix it AND make all kinds of other additions.

I think for a lot of people once the "wow" factor dissipated from the early information on pre-game cinematics, that excitement faded into skepticism as to how the game actually separates itself from '11. Hopefully some information about Dynasty will prove me wrong to temper my own excitement.

[JerseySuave4]

Quote: Originally Posted by jwilphl

All the pre-game looks new (for the most part, there were some recycled angles and cuts). Outside of that, the actual in-game presentation seemed identical to me, which is where the meat of the improvements should have been made. The gameplay looks improved, but the problem for me personally is my eyes focus on all the weird animations, and there are plenty of them. That said, it didn't surprise me. It is only one game though and still possibly pre-beta so it is difficult to fairly judge the content. As I said before, I'm waiting to hear on any improvements to Dynasty. If nothing substantial has been done, which is probably more likely than not, I'll just pass again. I don't have a problem with the developers--they do good things and are trying to improve the game with what they have. That said, the engine is really flawed and needs an overhaul, and I would also be a fan of a two-year developmental cycle instead of one. So my only gripes are with EA and the foundation of the game. For all those saying it looks like '11 too much, what do you expect? That's what happens when you have a year to do a "new" game. You have to recycle the core of the game over and over because there isn't time to fix it AND make all kinds of other additions. I think for a lot of people once the "wow" factor dissipated from the early information on pre-game cinematics, that excitement faded into skepticism as to how the game actually separates itself from '11. Hopefully some information about Dynasty will prove me wrong to temper my own excitement.

i agree which is why i also would be in favor of 2 year cycles to allow more time to make bigger developmental changes so the game really feels fresh instead of an update.

[BezO]

Ehhh. Even with all the great announcements, EA has a long way to go.

One small thing... why is the defense still huddling 5 yards off the ball then shuffling to their positions? Looks terrible.

As for the major stuff...

-Looks like contain AI is still absent.
-Alignment is still a problem. The defense was out flanked on a few plays.
-Even with the tackle improvements, I still see defenders avoiding tackles in progress.
-Still no engaged player lateral mobility.
-DEs still too slow on the upfield pass rush. And that little loop to the outside waste even more time. But I'm glad to see DEs at least getting up field.
-The footwork is still pretty bad. The skating & sliding not only looks bad, but it allows players to move around too quickly.
-Still no double team on the gunners on punts.
-And please get rid of the kicking meter next year. Why not let us time kicker's approach & leg swing similar to the way NBA 2K does freethrows?

As for improvements, the tackles look better. The 2nd defender in has some effect. And the tackles have more force & effort.

Outside of that, I didn't see much difference from last year.

[booker21]

I was really impress with all the improvements they were talking about.. but after watching this video, from gameplay perspective, i feel it was almost the same game

[The JareBear]

Quote: Originally Posted by booker21

I was really impress with all the improvements they were talking about.. but after watching this video, from gameplay perspective, i feel it was almost the same game

I can't blame you or anybody else for feeling that way. I truly feel like some of the gameplay improvements shine in the video but the bottom line is until we get our hands on the demo, there is no way to really know