Hillis Ahead of Vick For Madden NFL 12 Cover

[kingkilla56]

Quote: Originally Posted by mestevo

State law related to contests are not typically a simple affair. As a result that's why your routinely see states or Canadian provinces excluded in the terms. In the case of this one "Residents of Florida, New York and Quebec are not eligible". Florida I think has a process where the state has to vet and approve the contest... a process few companies/contests bother to take the time to do so instead those residents are excluded. Adembroski confirmed it would not be legal for them to change the results of the bracket contest... that doesn't mean they couldn't turn around and put Vick on the 360 and Hillis on the PS3 cover or something (or make all of the participants' covers available for download if licensed appropriately). From a feature and promotional standpoint, I could make a pretty good case that Hillis and the Browns would make good poster children for franchise mode. Superstar mode too.

Thanks for the detailed response. It makes a little more sense now.

[Dog]

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by Giants4Natic

EA blew this and they know it. Sorry but Peyton Hillis is not a house hold name. Cover players are usually establish stars and not one big year. EA should have had Cribbs from Cleveland who is a known pro bowl player Having Vick would suck because he is a POS but having Hillis is putting an unknown to the average football fan who is going to say WHO?

I disagree it will dent their sales big time. Most people don't buy who's on the cover, but what's inside the cover.

I don't know why people feel that cover athletes have this huge impact on sales.

[mjhyankees]

Quote: Originally Posted by OSUFan_88

Is anyone going to give a legit answer to the "Why is Hillis considered pedestrian?" Question? Or is 1600 total yards and 13 TD's not good enough for some people? Especially considering he had one of the worst passing games in the NFL on his team too.

When at least 10 guys had better numbers at his position alone, not to mention other positions, then yes he's sorta pedestrian...maybe a bit better than that but not a star. His numbers are slightly above average in the NFL at his spot.

[mjhyankees]

Quote: Originally Posted by kehlis

No, those making the claim don't follow football enough to know why what they are saying is false.

His average is 4.4....he led the league in fumbles, he was 11th in rushing (and not as good as about 30 guys at their other respective positions). He averaged 73 yards per game.....Pedestrian enough????

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by mjhyankees

His average is 4.4....he led the league in fumbles, he was 11th in rushing (and not as good as about 30 guys at their other respective positions). He averaged 73 yards per game.....Pedestrian enough????

Not according to the NFL. 73 yds/game still nets you over 1,000 yds per year and that is an accomplishment in the NFL.

There are many backs that do not gain that magical 1000yds per season. He ranked 7th in the AFC.

[mjhyankees]

Quote: Originally Posted by mjhyankees

His average is 4.4....he led the league in fumbles, he was 11th in rushing (and not as good as about 30 guys at their other respective positions). He averaged 73 yards per game.....Pedestrian enough????

Oh yea....let me add 15th in yards per game and 15th in yards per carry. Given that there are 32 teams that's about as pedestrian as you can get.

[mjhyankees]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

Not according to the NFL. 73 yds/game still nets you over 1,000 yds per year and that is an accomplishment in the NFL. There are many backs that do not gain that magical 1000yds per season. He ranked 7th in the AFC.

17 backs gained that magic number......is that special?????
some more guys would have done it barring injury or some other issue. Getting 1000 yards is based on the 14 game schedule where maybe a handful of guys would do it. To be more realistic....look for guys that had over 1200 or 1300 yards. Don't give him credit because the season is longer. do you think 73 pyg is great? That's slightly above average. It was 15th in the league. Not my idea of greatness, elite, special or newsworthy. Nice player, love his grit...but lets face it...there are about 15-20 better backs in the league with the track record and current numbers to prove it.

Should we talk about TD's???? Ahmad Bradshaw had 8, 3 less than Hillis...on a team where 1) he's splitting carries with another back and 2) he comes out in goal line situations to put the big guy in. And he had only 3 Td's less. I'm sorry....not thinking he's pedestrian is more questionable than thinking he is.

For the record...any back with his number of carries got 1000 yards and 6 guys did it with less carries......L. Tomlinson, Gore, Felix jones, brandon jacobs, fred jackson, knoshawn moreno, jonathan stewart....all would have had a 1000 yards if they'd carried the ball as often as Hillis. Want to make the case it's a popularity contest...I'll buy Hillis...but please don't try to sell me on him being anything but a "nice" player, a good player, a gritty player.....but closer to pedestrian than to being a star.