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Old 04-23-2011, 12:45 AM   #177
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Re: NCAA Football 12 Videos - Gameplay Enhancements and Presentation Improvements

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This could possibly be the greatest football video game ever created, we just gotta play it for ourselves but I have never EVER been more impressed with a football games from pre uanch vids as I have with this game. VIDEO GAME FOOTBALL IS BACK. Cmon Madden please do what this game is.
Uh... it’s April. The real test will be the end of July. And judging by EA’s track record, the end of July ain’t gonna be pretty.
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Old 04-23-2011, 11:45 AM   #178
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Uh... it’s April. The real test will be the end of July. And judging by EA’s track record, the end of July ain’t gonna be pretty.
So your parents never get you what you want for Christmas and you feel the need to bring down everybody else's hopes? Misery loves company, sure, but the automatic response shouldn't always be negative. Have some hope, and if the final product blows then have at it.
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Double hit tackles.

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I don't really see double hit tackles like you are seeing. More like pre decided chained annimations at times IMO. Heres a youtube video with pretty good breakdown of the video you are claiming had double hit tackles. If you want to watch with a open mind, let me know your thoughts. If you see good true double hit tackles, please let me know which ones you like.-Thanks Roadman.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHUYU...el_video_title

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I don't really see double hit tackles like you are seeing. More like pre decided chained annimations at times IMO. Heres a youtube video with pretty good breakdown of the video you are claiming had double hit tackles. If you want to watch with a open mind, let me know your thoughts. If you see good true double hit tackles, please let me know which ones you like.-Thanks Roadman.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHUYU...el_video_title
I haven't seen a double hit tackle either. I keep seeing people say they're in there but I haven't seen it and, as far as I can tell, the devs haven't said that they are in. What I am seeing is a guy break a tackle then another guy comes and hits him, but I have not seen a guy getting tackled and, while getting tackled, someone else comes and cleans him up and causes him to change the direction of his fall. That's my idea of consecutive hit tackles. I see some guys come and latch on to a tackle that's already happening, but no one is coming in and changing the momentum of a tackle that's already happening.
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I haven't seen a double hit tackle either. I keep seeing people say they're in there but I haven't seen it and, as far as I can tell, the devs haven't said that they are in. What I am seeing is a guy break a tackle then another guy comes and hits him, but I have not seen a guy getting tackled and, while getting tackled, someone else comes and cleans him up. That's my idea of a consecutive hit tackle.
Exactly! When my user control player can run up and plow a guy in a new direction and cause a new annimation to take over based on what would really happen. Thats double hit tackles. Just like other games had before it(include even Maden 05 I believe).

I get the feeling with these trailers were gonna get bamboozled. That's just what my eyes are seeing. Take a look at the dive catches. Those are not dive catches. Those are cathes and then the player for no reason falls down and does a roll. A dive catch is when a receiver really lays it out there just to reach a ball.

If you watch this video a few times, you will really see what is there. And to anyone who says why would you watch the video 5-6 times to notice them....you will be playing the same game over and over and like always, you will notice them after a month of play. Thats why IMO NCAA and Maden get old quickly. The flaws just start jumping out at you.(see below)

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I don't really see double hit tackles like you are seeing. More like pre decided chained annimations at times IMO. Heres a youtube video with pretty good breakdown of the video you are claiming had double hit tackles. If you want to watch with a open mind, let me know your thoughts. If you see good true double hit tackles, please let me know which ones you like.-Thanks Roadman.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHUYU...el_video_title
Np, I already saw this one from a longer format.

To me, it's just one epinion vs(no pun intended) against another eopinion. The 1:24 or 1:34 minute mark where there is a definate momentum consecutive hit tackle. The youtuber says that is ok, to me, it's more than ok, it's much improve. Drove the TE backwards.

To me, it's a very biased eopinion. Plus, that trailer isn't the one I was looking at. There was another game play trailer that had several double-hit tackles, but people just want to focus on the negatives and not accentuate the positives at the same time.

I'll see if I can find that video for you with several double-hit momentum tackles.
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Old 04-23-2011, 03:34 PM   #183
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I always had to switch plays after each play. It happened on Defense to. Every time I played a zone CPU called a play to exploit it.
IT really kept me from playing RB in RTG. Every time They called a run play for me the defense showed a heavy blitz.
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I always noticed when I called a shotgun run play the CPU would be in 43 or 34. If I called shotgun pass play, they would be in nickel or dime.

I just wonder when EA will make CPU smarter through the use of tendencies and game planning. I'd love to see in the pre-game info what my upcoming opponent does on first down? 50% run 50% pass? Do they run to the field or strength? Or would tendencies show us how weak their simulations are?
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Np, I already saw this one from a longer format.

To me, it's just one epinion vs(no pun intended) against another eopinion. The 1:24 or 1:34 minute mark where there is a definate momentum consecutive hit tackle. The youtuber says that is ok, to me, it's more than ok, it's much improve. Drove the TE backwards.

To me, it's a very biased eopinion. Plus, that trailer isn't the one I was looking at. There was another game play trailer that had several double-hit tackles, but people just want to focus on the negatives and not accentuate the positives at the same time.

I'll see if I can find that video for you with several double-hit momentum tackles.
Thanks for the reply Roadman. I thought 1:34 looked pretty good. I don't really see consecutive hits, but the annimations looked good there, so I'm happy with that tackle. The one at 1:24 looked more like a broken tackle, and then a new tackle annimation to me. I realise it could be considered a consecutive hit....but I would really like to see some one get pushed in a opposite direction because of a hit. Or at the very least when a ball carrier is held up (engaged in a tackle) I want to be able to take my user controlled player and pop him one...not just bounce off/roll off. That is really what I think most are looking for.

If you find the other video, please link it to me. I would love to see this in NCAA12, and hopefully Madden 12 as well. If they can fix this issue, the suction issue's(they seam to have at least made big improvements to this one), and fix the skating /sliding feet....I will be extremely happy!
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