25 New Plays Coming to Madden NFL 12 - Play #12: PA Y-Drag Wheel

[Evan_OS]

Quote: Originally Posted by Palo20

So you're saying come out in 4 WR and audible down to this play?

I'm not sure about all formations, but the two I do know that would work are the 5 WR formations and 4 WR formations with a tailback. I don't do it often so there are probably more formations that you can do this with other than those two.

[LBzrule]

Quote: Originally Posted by wEEman33

Wheel routes took forever to run in Madden 11, even with a fast WR. I can only imagine how slow this route would be with a TE. Route running in general is just too slow in Madden.

That's a big concern of mine. The route running in a lot of cases is too slow and then to top it off it is way to flustered. WR's do not know how to smoothly get around each other and defenders. They do not do a great job of moving through traffic, which results in you have to hold the football longer than you want to on a play like this.

[TheShizNo1]

Quote: Originally Posted by LBzrule

That's a big concern of mine. The route running in a lot of cases is too slow and then to top it off it is way to flustered. WR's do not know how to smoothly get around each other and defenders. They do not do a great job of moving through traffic, which results in you have to hold the football longer than you want to on a play like this.

Not even that, will the super LB or S be able to magically cover the field and just lift his arm up swatting it down, like what can be done now?

WR getting around DB's is a great point. I watched my WR with 90RTE try to run a 5 and out and just get stuck with the DB.

[Palo20]

Quote: Originally Posted by Evan_OS

I'm not sure about all formations, but the two I do know that would work are the 5 WR formations and 4 WR formations with a tailback. I don't do it often so there are probably more formations that you can do this with other than those two.

Hate to sound like the "sim police" but I don't think it's all that realistic to have 2 WRs playing TE and a WR playing HB just to have them run a good play that happens to be in a 2 TE formation.

[Evan_OS]

Quote: Originally Posted by Palo20

Hate to sound like the "sim police" but I don't think it's all that realistic to have 2 WRs playing TE and a WR playing HB just to have them run a good play that happens to be in a 2 TE formation.

Is it SIM to put your DT at fullback in goal line formation?

In all honesty, if you do things within the game that don't cause glitches, make your player speed up quicker after the snap of the ball, run fake punts and go for 4th downs every possession or anything like that, it's not considered cheese imo.

[Exonerated]

or madden could just let us sub in WRs,TEs,HBs,CBs at receiver positions and let us have our fun.

[Palo20]

Quote: Originally Posted by Evan_OS

Is it SIM to put your DT at fullback in goal line formation? In all honesty, if you do things within the game that don't cause glitches, make your player speed up quicker after the snap of the ball, run fake punts and go for 4th downs every possession or anything like that, it's not considered cheese imo.

Yeah, I understand your point. It's not like putting WR's at TE "breaks" the game, but when a DT comes in at FB in real life, it alerts the 11 defenders, "hey chances are they're gonna run, and if they pass, the FB probably doesn't need to be covered. Let's sell out for the run."

In Madden, when there are 5 WRs on the field playing TE and HB, there is no way of making the 11 defenders sell out for the pass. They don't recognize that running the ball in that situation would be a poor strategy and should pretty much be ignored. So while it's not breaking the game, it's also not well accounted for as it would be in real life.

And I do believe we should have the ability to sub in any player at any position. As long as the game plays properly, there will be some risk/reward to playing guys out of position.

[SpreadEm]

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