With No EA Sports Sim Basketball Title Until 2012, Are You Confident in NBA 2K12?

[coolcras7]

Quote: Originally Posted by TUSS11

I'm not making that claim. I'm just stating that such things didn't exist before, therefore they shouldn't exist now. A new game shouldn't have issues that it's predecessors had solutions for.

And I am saying they did not exist because of fundamental flaws in core gameplay that existed in a game like 2k7, when you add new feathers into a game like momentum, player weight and contact other issues will manifest themselves, I don't think you are saying that 2k7 is better than 2k11 because they did not have issues that you feel 2k11 has.

[B-Ball Life]

Quote: Originally Posted by dannyr326

While I am satisfied with NBA 2K11. It is definitely a great game, but I hope they can find a way to smooth out the controls/animations (maybe a refreshed dribbling system that uses the right analog stick with an L2 modifier) That would be my ideal dribbling control system that almost mimics Elite's but will allow 2K to keep its crown. If they fail to do so next year, I predict EA's NBA Elite will regain its stature like it has been able to do with games such as FIFA, and its reboot of the NHL franchise. Does anybody agree?

i definitely agree they will.

[TUSS11]

Quote: Originally Posted by coolcras7

And I am saying they did not exist because of fundamental flaws in core gameplay that existed in a game like 2k7, when you add new feathers into a game like momentum, player weight and contact other issues will manifest themselves, I don't think you are saying that 2k7 is better than 2k11 because they did not have issues that you feel 2k11 has.

When that happens you have to question if the new additions are worth it.

[coolcras7]

Quote: Originally Posted by TUSS11

When that happens you have to question if the new additions are worth it.

lol, you can't be serious, of course those additions were worth it they are what makes 2k11 the best of the series and Sports game of the year.

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i believe that 2k12 will build on the solid foundation 2k11 set down fix up those little mistakes and keep the classic teams (maybe add a few ) and 2k12 should be a success

[DaReapa]

Quote: Originally Posted by TUSS11

There are flaws and then there are fundamental flaws that detract from the playability of a game. - When I pass to my Center who's cutting from the block to the foul line the pass shouldn't lead him all the way to the 3pt line where he's completely useless. - When I contest a shot perfectly, the ball shouldn't go through my hand just because the game decided the shot must go in. - When a two-player animation starts, the eight other players on the court should slide and morph out of the way so the animation can be completed. - When I get bumped by my defender I shouldn't have to stubble back five feet and take five dribbles before my player regains his balance. - When I perform the behind-the-back action on the controller there shouldn't be a 2 second delay before my player actually dribbles behind his back. These are just a handful of the countless fundamental issues that I encounter multiple times every game (some of them occur every possession). I'm not complaining about arms morphing through torsos or anything of that nature because that doesn't detract from the quality of gameplay. The things I mentioned do.

M'man, you are spot on, and I couldn't agree more. I personally can't take another year of the many issues you've addressed and the sluggish controls.

[TUSS11]

Quote: Originally Posted by coolcras7

lol, you can't be serious, of course those additions were worth it they are what makes 2k11 the best of the series and Sports game of the year.

I don't think we're talking about the same thing. I really don't have time to go back and clarify my points.

Quote: Originally Posted by DaReapa

M'man, you are spot on, and I couldn't agree more. I personally can't take another year of the many issues you've addressed and the sluggish controls.

The fact that these issues reoccur year after year kills me too. I mean, can't they just take the time to get it right for once?

[coolcras7]

Quote: Originally Posted by TUSS11

I don't think we're talking about the same thing. I really don't have time to go back and clarify my points. The fact that these issues reoccur year after year kills me too. I mean, can't they just take the time to get it right for once?

Why don't you teach them how to do it right since you are a computer programer/game designer, because I am sure they leave flaws in the game just for fun or ignorance. Basketball will always be one if not the hardest game to replicate, because how do you program heart and determination and true player abilities and tendencies is that even possible, how do you create a simulated D Rose or Kobe, how do you make something that has no real physical presence act and respond like it does, everything is not cut and dry and every year they will continue to figure out how to overcome previous short comings but expecting to see perfection and a true to life replication is no where near possible at this time.