With No EA Sports Sim Basketball Title Until 2012, Are You Confident in NBA 2K12?

[achieveduser]

Quote: Originally Posted by cgalligan

haha "other" developers... I agree with the poeple that have said 2k11 is the best NBA Game ever made... The people that don't like it are probably the same people that enjoyed crossing people over with Eric Snow and posterizing Kevin Garnet on NBA Live... (seen it done) <<<--- I've personally Saw this happen while watching my buddies play NBA Live... If thats your definition of "sim" than be my guest and play NBA Live to your hearts desire... 2k, makes a "sim" basketball game, and people that don't "understand" basketball or know how the game "should" be played, are the same people that will hate on the game...

I meant to say "any other" developers would have charge us at least 15 bucks. 2K guys didn't take advantage on that and that's really great. So I think they will work hard on the next release if this is the attitude.

[TUSS11]

It's ironic how you have to either be a cheeser or have no basketball knowledge if you dislike 2K11. I agree that 2K11 is the best basketball game ever made. However, that doesn't mean that it's flawless. In fact, the weak points of the game are fundamental issues that a game of it's quality should not have. And the reason why I'm not confident in 2K12 is because we see the same problems year after year. I doubt 2K12 will be any different.

[Still2REal]

Quote: Originally Posted by TUSS11

It's ironic how you have to either be a cheeser or have no basketball knowledge if you dislike 2K11. I agree that 2K11 is the best basketball game ever made. However, that doesn't mean that it's flawless. In fact, the weak points of the game are fundamental issues that a game of it's quality should not have. And the reason why I'm not confident in 2K12 is because we see the same problems year after year. I doubt 2K12 will be any different.

QFT

I've never picked up any sports game and hadn't seen ridiculous flaws in the very first game I played in a quick match. The list only grows the minute I start a franchise. That's not to say I haven't played some GREAT games but all this "only haters say this games isn't perfect" stuff is nonsense.

[DurtySoufReppin]

Quote: Originally Posted by TUSS11

It's ironic how you have to either be a cheeser or have no basketball knowledge if you dislike 2K11. I agree that 2K11 is the best basketball game ever made. However, that doesn't mean that it's flawless. In fact, the weak points of the game are fundamental issues that a game of it's quality should not have. And the reason why I'm not confident in 2K12 is because we see the same problems year after year. I doubt 2K12 will be any different.

like what?

[bhurst99]

Wow, that means EA Sports is going to have pay for the license this year and simply eat those licensing fees. Incredible.

[coolcras7]

I find it funny that even when EA does not create a basketball game they still get the benefit of the doubt that they will produce something amazing when they eventually do, but 2k creates the best basketball game ever and it is considered overrated, really overrated, no game will be flawless so having flaws does not make it overrated. 2k does not have a history of being lazy so I don't expect them to all of a sudden acquire that habit, I see 2k using this time to push the limits of their game so that when EA does release a game the people loyal to that franchise will have permanently converted to 2k fans.

[TUSS11]

Quote: Originally Posted by Still2REal

QFT I've never picked up any sports game and hadn't seen ridiculous flaws in the very first game I played in a quick match. The list only grows the minute I start a franchise. That's not to say I haven't played some GREAT games but all this "only haters say this games isn't perfect" stuff is nonsense.

There are flaws and then there are fundamental flaws that detract from the playability of a game.
- When I pass to my Center who's cutting from the block to the foul line the pass shouldn't lead him all the way to the 3pt line where he's completely useless.
- When I contest a shot perfectly, the ball shouldn't go through my hand just because the game decided the shot must go in.
- When a two-player animation starts, the eight other players on the court should slide and morph out of the way so the animation can be completed.
- When I get bumped by my defender I shouldn't have to stubble back five feet and take five dribbles before my player regains his balance.
- When I perform the behind-the-back action on the controller there shouldn't be a 2 second delay before my player actually dribbles behind his back.

These are just a handful of the countless fundamental issues that I encounter multiple times every game (some of them occur every possession). I'm not complaining about arms morphing through torsos or anything of that nature because that doesn't detract from the quality of gameplay. The things I mentioned do.

[coolcras7]

Quote: Originally Posted by TUSS11

There are flaws and then there are fundamental flaws that detract from the playability of a game. - When I pass to my Center who's cutting from the block to the foul line the pass shouldn't lead him all the way to the 3pt line where he's completely useless. - When I contest a shot perfectly, the ball shouldn't go through my hand just because the game decided the shot must go in. - When a two-player animation starts, the eight other players on the court should slide and morph out of the way so the animation can be completed. - When I get bumped by my defender I shouldn't have to stubble back five feet and take five dribbles before my player regains his balance. - When I perform the behind-the-back action on the controller there shouldn't be a 2 second delay before my player actually dribbles behind his back. These are just a handful of the countless fundamental issues that I encounter multiple times every game (some of them occur every possession). I'm not complaining about arms morphing through torsos or anything of that nature because that doesn't detract from the quality of gameplay. The things I mentioned do.

Please give me a basketball game that did not have these exact flaws, alot has to do with the level of technology that we are currently using. I hate the ball going through the hands as much as you do but it has to either do with ratings or the fact that until the ball leaves the players hand they are one object, just tell me one thing is 2k11 better than 2k10 and has less flaws? if so they you have seen that every year they try to solve some of these issues and hopefully 2k12 will have fewer flaws than 2k11, but don't expect a flawless game because that will never happen.