Madden NFL 12 Video - First Look Reveals Custom Playbooks, What Else Can You Find?

[guaps]

Quote: Originally Posted by rangerrick012

It's hard for some (myself included to some extent) to believe that it takes 7 years to add things to Madden that were already there last gen.

You can include me in the mix as well.

When I look at other sports video games, they weren't perfect in the first versions of current generation consoles, but they were still fun and very playable.

I remember that FIFA 07 on Xbox 360 (this was before the PS3 launch) was built from scratch and therefore lacked some features from last-gen and had fewer teams (only 6 leagues of teams) to choose from, but it had so much potential that it didn't really matter much - gameplay was fun, but not better than last-gen. Then came FIFA 08 with all its features and 600+ teams (15,000+ players) and everybody kinda forgot about FIFA 07 and previous editions and Pro Evolution Soccer (which didn't transition to current-gen as smoothly) and moved forward from there. The latest edition of FIFA (FIFA 11) has won over 50 video game awards and deserves every single one of them in my opinion.

With Madden the game still suffers from mistakes made years and years ago, that weren't fixed immediately and/or forgotten about for years. Unlike FIFA, where FIFA 08 stopped everybody from comparing the game with old editions and the competition, Madden has yet to so the same. People are still missing features and gameplay from last-gen, have yet to see things in Madden that the competition did on last-gen consoles, and now some have started comparing the newest current-gen (10 and 11) with the old current-gen games (08 and 09) for gameplay features/elements removed or missing from the game.

To me that shows that something went completely wrong when EA got the exclusive agreement with the NFL. They stopped caring about improving the game and went in all different directions at the same time, instead of working on delivering the best game possible.

I feel that the game has a direction now with the current team, but I'm not in the 'better-late-than-never' camp. I don't want to wait until next-gen Madden before Tiburon delivers.

[da ThRONe]

Quote: Originally Posted by guaps

You can include me in the mix as well. When I look at other sports video games, they weren't perfect in the first versions of current generation consoles, but they were still fun and very playable. I remember that FIFA 07 on Xbox 360 (this was before the PS3 launch) was built from scratch and therefore lacked some features from last-gen and had fewer teams (only 6 leagues of teams) to choose from, but it had so much potential that it didn't really matter much - gameplay was fun, but not better than last-gen. Then came FIFA 08 with all its features and 600+ teams (15,000+ players) and everybody kinda forgot about FIFA 07 and previous editions and Pro Evolution Soccer (which didn't transition to current-gen as smoothly) and moved forward from there. The latest edition of FIFA (FIFA 11) has won over 50 video game awards and deserves every single one of them in my opinion. With Madden the game still suffers from mistakes made years and years ago, that weren't fixed immediately and/or forgotten about for years. Unlike FIFA, where FIFA 08 stopped everybody from comparing the game with old editions and the competition, Madden has yet to so the same. People are still missing features and gameplay from last-gen, have yet to see things in Madden that the competition did on last-gen consoles, and now some have started comparing the newest current-gen (10 and 11) with the old current-gen games (08 and 09) for gameplay features/elements removed or missing from the game. To me that shows that something went completely wrong when EA got the exclusive agreement with the NFL. They stopped caring about improving the game and went in all different directions at the same time, instead of working on delivering the best game possible. I feel that the game has a direction now with the current team, but I'm not in the 'better-late-than-never' camp. I don't want to wait until next-gen Madden before Tiburon delivers.

No disrespect to any Madden dev past and present, but it seems like they were attempting to trick us into sells than just focusing on the issues. I just don't understand how you can go through the years and instead of getting the basics of football correct they were always trying to offer the shiny new feature. Madden is were it is because they banked on gimmicks instead of trying to simulate the sport. It's no surprise that all the sports titles that are focusing on the basics of their respective sports are doing well while those who didn't aren't. Only thing that saved Madden was the exclusive deal.

[Sik kid Pk]

Quote: Originally Posted by CHooe

So because EA already implemented the feature in a game they released twelve years ago they shouldn't bother with it at all? What are you trying to argue here? The feature hasn't been in a next-gen Madden game, and now it appears that it will be. To knock EA for adding a feature to franchise mode, which is what we all wanted them to do anyway, is counterproductive at best.

I think he's saying that because people are acting like this is some new feature when it's really not. Also, there's no reason this should have been taken out of the game in the first place.

It's whatever tho, better than nothing i guess.

[Cnada]

So have we figured out what the Kicking is?

Seems everyone has moved on from this and i haven't seen a definite answer like the others?

[guaps]

Quote: Originally Posted by Cnada

So have we figured out what the Kicking is? Seems everyone has moved on from this and i haven't seen a definite answer like the others?

Mostly likely dynamic crowd attendance. It appears that there are more people in the crowd during the first field goal attempt than in the second.

[Claymaker52]

Quote: Originally Posted by poisedjase

i just wonder if madden will let u use custom plays for online play like head to head or online franchise or how it will work for team play will custom plays work for all that

NO, NO, and NO!!!!! I will not play a single game online if they allow this. Each playbook has an average of around 10-12 different plays that a player uses throughout a game, as those are the plays in that particular PB that work most often. Now if they were to allow you to pick those 10-12 plays from each PB and put into one, it would be cheese city. People would just be like, "Hmm, that's a money play, I'll add that" and so on. Never mind if you also have the ability to use created plays/formations.

[LastEmp88]

EA takes out features for no reason and then about 7 or 8 years later reintroduces them as "new" features to get excited about.

I'm left wondering why exactly can't they just leave good features in?

Also another new feature they should actually add are a revamped create a team. The create a team in madden is so bland and identical if not worse than the versions from last gen. You can't even create alternate uniforms. Whereas NCAA 11 had the most awesome create a team I've ever seen with massive uniform combo options and color and logo options.

Madden needs to step their game up. At least just take all the good things NCAA has and use it too. Is that unreasonable?

[wheelman990]

pylons were in Madden 03. You could create plays in football games in the 90's. Dynamic crowds should just be a given these days.

I could go on and on, but I think the majority here have already said it. Madden is doing the same thing over and over, and it appears they still haven't changed for 12. Unless Madden feels fresh and new(gameplay & features), I'm not buying it this year. I can't keep supporting the system they currently use. The only way were going to see sim gaming, is by forcing the NFL to get rid of the exclusive. The only way to do that....skip Madden.