Madden NFL 12 Super Bowl Halftime Blog: Tuner Sets and Surprise Onside Kicks

[100 Proof]

Quote: Originally Posted by DocHolliday

The most disappointing thing in that whole blog video is how the players react after a play LIKE THEYY HAVE FOR THE PAST 5 YEARS! No life, just get up and walk around the field. No congratulating other players, no helping up teamates, no running to the side line with the ball. It feels the same as every other Madden, and these guys just refuse to grasp the idea.

Well in all honesty, they do have a few interactive animations like the one where the a player helps another player up off the field and the one where a tackled player rolls the ball into another player. I realize the fact that I can list them so easily, points out there are not enough of these but at least we know they can do it.

Also, to all the people giving the Madden reform "doubters" grief, I don't get it. Those that believe Madden 12 will be great and those that are just taking a wait and see approach, that's cool. However, those that believe it will be just more of the same, that's cool too. Some of you guys act like the "doubters" have no legitimate reasons to believe what they do, when actually, based on these 6 years, the "doubters" have the most rational belief.

I would really like Madden 12 to live up to the standard discuss in the blog but the people that are convinced it will not, have every right to express that, IMO. I personally have renewed hope in Madden because of the addition of OSer Adem and Looman being moved back over to franchise. But my main issue is what I think Ian's approach to adding things to the game is.

The mantras "Everything you see on Sundays" and "True to Football" sound great but how you add things is just as important as what things you add. For example, surprise onside kicks are definitely seen on sundays and true to football but just adding them without a proper risk/reward implementation destroys the realism. Limiting the number of times someone can attempt a surprise onside kick or assigning some random dice roll to decide its' success, is not realistic risk/reward. Adding a surprise onside kick without implementing a way for teams to expect it, destroys the realism of a "surprise" onside kick.

Until Ian ( I say Ian because he is the creative director) buys into realistic risk/reward implementation to regulate Maddens' real football features, like PA pass, screen passes, double move routes, QB rollouts, double team blocks, blitz schemes, etc, we might get what we see on sundays but it will not play like true football.

[BlueNGold]

Quote: Originally Posted by Mike Smoove

Looks like the same exact game. Not good.

Yeah, because you could really tell from a 5 second clip.....

[Dog]

Quote: Originally Posted by BlueNGold

Yeah, because you could really tell from a 5 second clip.....

In such an early build. People never cease to baffle me

[RedZoneD25]

Quote: Originally Posted by Mike Smoove

Looks like the same exact game. Not good.

With 5 months of dev time left? (Goes gold a month before release)

Yeah, I'm sure it would. I'd rather it look similar with upgrades yearly than get a brand new facelift with a whole new set of problems...but wait until June/July gameplay videos before you throw in the towel.

[econoodle]

Quote: Originally Posted by Mike Smoove

Looks like the same exact game. Not good.

Come on Mike, that's not Smoove.

its february.
its a 5 second clip.

Besides, how different do u want it too look Mike?


ME, I am glad it looks like the same exact game. One time I bought FIFA 09 and it looked like Fight Night.

Man, I was piiiiiissseeed.

[Senator Palmer]

I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing that it looks like last year.

At this point looks do nothing for me. I wouldn't care if it was photo-real if the gameplay isn't polished with a compliment of defensive improvements.

[KyGamerLT]

I sure hope EA can have this not be a exploit. If the current testers can get it back 90% of the time, I'm sure online players can figure out how to get it back at the same rate.

[Steve_OS]

UPDATE: The podcast is now on iTunes, for those that couldn't listen to it, via the blog.

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