Madden NFL 12 Super Bowl Halftime Blog: Tuner Sets and Surprise Onside Kicks

[PantherBeast_OS]

Quote: Originally Posted by JDoze

Seriously?? They know PA is broken, but we have to decide between if it gets fixed or if a new feature gets added. Wow, priorities are messed up. Also, why are people saying "from a marketing standpoint"? Because the competition might still their ideas? Its still the same terrible engine, if the most they can do is polish up the graphics and add new "features" like a surprise onside.....another bad year for Madden.

Well bro just because Ian did a poll on both surprise onsides or fix PA. Doesn't mean they ain't going to fix it.. I'm sure they will be fixing the PA while giving us the surprise onside kick aswell. It's way early bro. Don't worry so much. Give them time to put out the info. It's still way early in the build.

[ryan36]

Quote: Originally Posted by Legend Killer

Well bro just because Ian did a poll on both surprise onsides or fix PA. Doesn't mean they ain't going to fix it.. I'm sure they will be fixing the PA while giving us the surprise onside kick aswell. It's way early bro. Don't worry so much. Give them time to put out the info. It's still way early in the build.

I'm NOT saying PA ISN'T fixed. I'm saying that if it truly was a one or the other situation then I'm sad they picked the suprise onside kicks. I DOUBT this is what happens.

And Ian being able to announce tuner sets is MUCH more than I expected

[Coach_III]

Quote: Originally Posted by ryan36

a) not everyone is an online gamer, and b) play in sim leagues...problem solved.

A im not talking about what everybody plays. Im talking about online play: b if I made that comment, dnt you think I already do

[PVarck31]

Quote: Originally Posted by ryan36

I'm NOT saying PA ISN'T fixed. I'm saying that if it truly was a one or the other situation then I'm sad they picked the suprise onside kicks. I DOUBT this is what happens. And Ian being able to announce tuner sets is MUCH more than I expected

Where did it say that Ian did a poll on whether they should add surprise onside kicks or fix PA? Did I miss this?

[100 Proof]

Quote: Originally Posted by Ian_Cummings_EA

I don't get this. Did you guys read the blog? That concern is specifically addressed numerous times.

Hey Ian, is there anyway you guys can just add a "Suprise Onside" kickoff formation for the receiving team? That would be a great counter to the surprise onside kick being added. That would add a realistic risk/reward aspect for the receiving team to sacrifice special teams blocking personnel for a hands teams upfront and/or sacrificing the potential of a big kick return by having the regular kickoff personnel looking for a surprise onside. I don't mean an onside kick formation but an actual kickoff formation where the recieving team is expecting a surprise onside.I think that would add realism to the surprise onside kick because in real life, the "surprise" is the recieving team is expecting a deep kickoff. Give us a way to negeat the surprise onside kick but risk return yards and field position if they kick it deep.

[khaliib]

Thanks Ian for stepping out and communicating with gamers.

I'm a rent 1st type of gamer. Not just with EA, but with all games since once you open, you own.

I think a better way to tie in the Surprise Onside Kick would be to tie it into an attribute of your ST Coach. Coaches have to play a role in the game somehow. It would be better if such a call was out of the hands of the gamer. You do this with the Off Coordinator already, just continue to expand to others on the coaching staff.

If your ST Coach calls it, you have to roll with it. Even if the circumstance is not right for it (better hire a ST Coach with good awareness of game situations).

Side note gripe:
I know it's still in the tinkering stage, but the KO players stayed fixed to their KO lanes eventhough it was an onside kick.

Also, for this to look/work right, players "Can Not" do that Standing 2-Step dance. Bodies must collide and hit the ground. This is the one time I would say that Backbreaker type of collisions would be perfect for this feature. It really would be nice if you could choose a guy and go blow up somebody on ST.

Players at the Pro level "Attack" their responsibilities with Recless Abandon. This is one area that really kills the Pro representation by Madden.

Well, we shall see.
That's all anybody can really say right now.

"Oh, how I wish Def Players in Madden would constantly move around like I'm watching on TV now.
Steelers 3-4 motion Def is crazy looking with so much movement happening before the snap"

This is what happens on Sundays.

[PantherBeast_OS]

Quote: Originally Posted by ryan36

I'm NOT saying PA ISN'T fixed. I'm saying that if it truly was a one or the other situation then I'm sad they picked the suprise onside kicks. I DOUBT this is what happens. And Ian being able to announce tuner sets is MUCH more than I expected

Well I hope PA does get fixed. But if not it ain't going to be a total loss. I run a lot PAs in my playbook and I'm fine with them most of the time. Just when the AI blitz to much on PA that bugs me.

[DJ]

Tuner sets and surprise onsides kicks are both good additions to the game. Ian, do you know if, like in NHL, users will be able to choose which Tuner Set they want to use? That was the only thing I didn't like about NCAA 11 was that you couldn't choose which Tuner to use.

Thanks for the info during Super Bowl Sunday