When John Madden Speaks, Game Designers Listen w/ Video

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by Hova57

yea i know i heard he has input , but if i remember right the last time he really had imput it was 04 or 05.

Not really.

They flew out to his mancave last year and told them about game planning and more shot gun plays.

Yes, I would love to have that setup in my basement.

[Hova57]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

Not really. They flew out to his mancave last year and told them about game planning and more shot gun plays. Yes, I would love to have that setup in my basement.

i didn't think he had that much infuence, and the gamplanning wasn't a bad move it just wasn't implemented right. if they had packaging along with the gameplanning and the same for defense i think alot of people would like it.

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by Hova57

i didn't think he had that much infuence, and the gamplanning wasn't a bad move it just wasn't implemented right. if they had packaging along with the gameplanning and the same for defense i think alot of people would like it.

Yeah, the article states that he is a consultant and not only takes part in the 6 hour annual meeting but is involved with conference calls and other strategy meetings throughout the year.

I agree with your assessment of the game planning idea. Good idea, not implemented properly.

[Hova57]

as far as shotgun goes should should be able to qb audible from undercenter to shotgun or vice versa

[Got The Goods]

Quote: Originally Posted by statum71

I hope John points out some needed presentation improvements.

ARG!!!!!!!!!! The most important aspect of mostly all video games and especially sports ones is game play. Madden's game play MUST improve.

It should be priority 1, 2, and 3.

Presentation is a non factor if people like myself who have been playing Madden 10+ years think the game play is to cheesy to ever enjoy.

[CreatineKasey]

To kind of piggyback of Madden's suggestion of calling 2 plays in the huddle:

We should limit audibles and hot routes dramatically. I think line protection calls should stay, but being able to essentially create hundreds of plays at the LOS isn't realistic at all. The time it takes to communicate changes and the possibility of mistakes are both factors not addressed right now.

I understand "hot routing" to a HOT ROUTE, but not creating whole route concepts on the fly every single play.

Right now, we can call about 10 different plays in the huddle without hot routes, his 2 play idea would be going backwards and taking away that excessive amount of options to the offense. Imagine how much more effective blitzes could be on defense if it was actually difficult to check out of an undesirable play. You see NFL teams call time-outs all the time because the defense shows them something they don't like. They don't simply draw a new play in the turf and beat it like we do right now.

Madden makes it too easy to counter defenses after seeing the defense. The offense should have to but more weight into their initial playcall. I've seen tourney gamers base their whole strategy on calling one play at the LOS and audibling to any of their 20 other concepts from there AFTER seeing the D. That's not realistic at all. A powerful way to take that away is do what Madden says: you get 2 to 3 plays. You get 1 hot route, and awareness will make it a risk for low AWR guys. Changing plays should involve more risk, more mistakes. It shouldn't be as foolproof as it is currently.

Thoughts?

[zeroice]

im more concerned with the financial status of EA. Layoffs , studios closing, and massive sales drops.xmas is coming however i dont think it will rebound that much. I hope Madden returns to the greatness and we can finally put to res tthe 2k5 argument even though strange enough it is still very valid

[rangerrick012]

Well gameplanning is a good idea, I just think the execution wasn't the best in M11. He does have a point that every coach doesn't go into the game w/ 300 plays, and teams run the same play from different sets more often than most people think.