Madden NFL 11 Title Update #4 Details

[jhogan3132]

Quote: Originally Posted by WinstonWolf

Wow this is just terrible. I was holding out hope that they would fix the intros and the silly weather, including raining in Cowboys Stadium. What about the messed up Gameplanning? I don't play MUT or online and I really don't care about those modes at all. I know my opinion doesn't matter but I'm completely beaten down by the direction of this game and the lack of improvement in some core areas. It's October 19, I love the NFL, and I'm done with this game. Now I know what being a Cubs fan feels like - wait 'til next year!

Whats silly about it raining in Cowboys Stadium? Don't you remember the game in the snow against the Dolphins? Anyways thank god they are doing something about disconnects in online play. If you guys havent tried it you are missing the best way to play madden. Get into a online franchise

[St. Chaos]

Quote: Originally Posted by falconfansince81

well see the snowball hasn't fallen to hell yet, as they are the only ones with the license which we are ALL in the mercy of. your probably right about them making more money of copies/downloaded content but there is also A LOT of advertising online that brings in a lot of extra money as well. and again, there is no way to prove (in debate) they would make more money by catering the game to offline players...since they haven't bothered with this approach in years. believe me, i would LOVE for ea to take 2k's approach and not only make a great online experience but an OFFLINE one as well...if they did that i would be wrapped in in an offline franchise myself, but they way it stands now its just not there for a lot of people. i think since ea realizes they haven't put any resources into it in so long people aren't playing it (statement made by ian) so their focus will be online. again, do i agree with this decision? hell no...but its all we got right now and i'm just trying to make the best of what we have, and for the time being its online sim franchises. we have well over 200+ members in our small sim community called maddengroup who are all concerned about the D/C issue...so thats what i was interested to hear about. clearly this board is totally opposite from the ea forums, its like the majority here are offline whereas the majority over there are online. despite our different views and opinions (which i don't intend to disrespect yours, although we disagree) i think 2k is setting a great example of catering to BOTH aspects of gamers, both online and off.

Sigh... I've liked you up until this point but now I want to smack you.

You've reminded me that 2K is gone

Ah well... I can always hope the government starts giving a damn about monopolies that don't directly effect them I suppose...

EA honestly doesn't need to focus on either the online or offline experience. They're both VERY broken, with online being harder to fix because the lag online is, by and far, the most consistently disgraceful display of coding I've ever seen. I have NEVER had a game as consistently as laggy as Madden is. I've literally never played a game of Madden that didn't have some amount of lag to a noticeable degree.

The entire game suffers from a lack of physics (which is all they need to work on for 2012 to be honest), but what compounds that is that even the ratings-based A.I. is horrible. Given that the A.I. at any given moment ALWAYS controls more players than the player, when your A.I. is busted, essentially your entire game is broken, no matter what mode. Blessings to those of you who manage to somehow enjoy Madden's online mode. Between lag, idiots, and cheaters, if they hacked my XBox and deleted my online gameplay abilities I wouldn't even notice. And when I did figure it out, I wouldn't care in the slightest.

They havn't even fully implemented BASIC blocking logic. BASIC route running logic. Hell, even the collision detection still fails and they've tweaked that every year in recent memory. Yet here they are attempting to implement more complex motions & situations even though the game is unstable at its core. They're trying to build a skyscraper on a toothpick, and that's just not gonna work.

[StormJH1]

This is a 4th title update - I'm not sure people are being realistic if they thought the game was going to be radically redesigned on the 4th update. If you haven't traded it in by now, you might as well just keep it and accept it for what it is.

There is a fair amount of free contact here, and as a Vikings fan, I appreciate the improved jerseys...also, the Ultimate Team modes could be fun.

[falconfansince81]

Quote: Originally Posted by St. Chaos

Sigh... I've liked you up until this point but now I want to smack you. You've reminded me that 2K is gone Ah well... I can always hope the government starts giving a damn about monopolies that don't directly effect them I suppose... EA honestly doesn't need to focus on either the online or offline experience. They're both VERY broken, with online being harder to fix because the lag online is, by and far, the most consistently disgraceful display of coding I've ever seen. I have NEVER had a game as consistently as laggy as Madden is. I've literally never played a game of Madden that didn't have some amount of lag to a noticeable degree. The entire game suffers from a lack of physics (which is all they need to work on for 2012 to be honest), but what compounds that is that even the ratings-based A.I. is horrible. Given that the A.I. at any given moment ALWAYS controls more players than the player, when your A.I. is busted, essentially your entire game is broken, no matter what mode. Blessings to those of you who manage to somehow enjoy Madden's online mode. Between lag, idiots, and cheaters, if they hacked my XBox and deleted my online gameplay abilities I wouldn't even notice. And when I did figure it out, I wouldn't care in the slightest. They havn't even fully implemented BASIC blocking logic. BASIC route running logic. Hell, even the collision detection still fails and they've tweaked that every year in recent memory. Yet here they are attempting to implement more complex motions & situations even though the game is unstable at its core. They're trying to build a skyscraper on a toothpick, and that's just not gonna work.

yep...aside from that part about smacking me i wholeheartedly agree 100% with the online lag issue. i really do wish i could find offline play as dynamic as i did on the ps2 consoles, but i just can't. i did try, i made a player and everything...got about 3 games into my season and just turned it off.

the struggle we go through in our online leagues is just embarassing, we sit there for sometimes hours trying to play one game that just results in disconnect after disconnect. we waste our entire evening with no sense of accomplishment, and i know...most people would say just give it up. but over the last couple years i've made a lot of great madden buddies and online franchises is the only feature we can...sort of...enjoy.

which is probably why i'm so ignorantly biased to seeing it addressed in the patch, and as for overlooking the offline gamers or coming off as pretentious i apologize. guess madden will do that to ya...lesson learned is not to post after spending 3 hours online only to experience 4 d/c's in one game that you can't even finish and expect to sound rational.

[bwquinn13]

Quote: Originally Posted by havokeff

I have played hundreds of games in offline franchise and it has never frozen on me. Try loading the game to the hard drive and playing that way. Also, and I know this is one of those 'duh' things, but make sure the disc is clean or doesn't have any scratches on it.

I had no problem with it until the last patch came out and it has progressively gotten worse... I will try and loading the game to the hard drive, how would I do that?... Lol yeah, I first thought dirty/scratched disc as well.

[BobbyColtrane]

Quote: Originally Posted by jhogan3132

Whats silly about it raining in Cowboys Stadium? Don't you remember the game in the snow against the Dolphins?

Dude they have had a retractable roof stadium for 2 seasons now. And they close it a lot of times even when the weather is nice. There's no way JJ would let it rain/snow on his precious 60 yard HDTV.

[havokeff]

Quote: Originally Posted by bwquinn13

I had no problem with it until the last patch came out and it has progressively gotten worse... I will try and loading the game to the hard drive, how would I do that?... Lol yeah, I first thought dirty/scratched disc as well.

On the dash board screen. Click on the game and there should be an option to download the game to the hard drive. You still need the disc to play, but hopefully that will cut the freezes out.

[debauchlord]

Quote: Originally Posted by St. Chaos

Ah well... I can always hope the government starts giving a damn about monopolies that don't directly effect them I suppose...

Hate to speak truth, but there is no such thing as a "monopoly" in the entertainment world. Is it a monopoly that Tolkein's heirs own the rights to Lord of the Rings? Is it a monopoly that Warner Brothers owns the rights to Harry Potter? That Sony owns the rights to Spider Man? These things are what they are; money deals on IP, highest bidder wins. Can we move on already?