NBA 2K11: Starting Five Roster Ratings

[ParisB]

I love how personal people take these ratings, and even argue down to a point or two as if there's some huge difference between a 75 and a 79. Usually people think their favorite players and teams should be much higher, lol. Funny how your perspective is biased towards the teams you watch. The Knicks guy above is a good example. Probably just read a team preview for the upcoming season and is super excited. Everyone also thinks the rookies on their team are nothing but star potential and everybody focuses on the upsides of players or the positives only (every young NBA player has upside) but the harsh reality is that the player you're arguing for might very well not be as good or as above average as you think.

Bottom line, they're just ratings in a video game. Enjoy it.

[jeebs9]

Quote: Originally Posted by Pokes404

Yep, this guy's got no defense. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WwUo...eature=related I wish I could find the entire quarter because it was an impressive defensive display, but that synopsis will have to do. I'm not claiming he's the "best defender in the league." I'm not even trying to convince you that he's a good defender. But come on, I think we can drop this idea of Durant as some kind of defensive liability. People talk about him as though he just stands at half court waiting for the other team to score so he can go throw up another 3. He went head-to-head with Kobe Bryant, the most clutch player in the league, and took him out of the 4th quarter of a playoff game. You can't have "no defense" and do that.

So what are you saying?...lol just kidding

I think KD is just one notch under Melo.

But also understand not having a post game like Melo hurts his overall rating at the end of the day.

[jeebs9]

Quote: Originally Posted by ParisB

I love how personal people take these ratings, and even argue down to a point or two as if there's some huge difference between a 75 and a 79. Usually people think their favorite players and teams should be much higher, lol. Funny how your perspective is biased towards the teams you watch. The Knicks guy above is a good example. Probably just read a team preview for the upcoming season and is super excited. Everyone also thinks the rookies on their team are nothing but star potential and everybody focuses on the upsides of players or the positives only (every young NBA player has upside) but the harsh reality is that the player you're arguing for might very well not be as good or as above average as you think. Bottom line, they're just ratings in a video game. Enjoy it.

I've seen that severally times in this thread.

[toomerk]

Quote: Originally Posted by jeebs9

So what are you saying?...lol just kidding I think KD is just one notch under Melo. But also understand not having a post game like Melo hurts his overall rating at the end of the day.

That depends on what we're talking about jeebs. Are we talking about production, or talent/skill? Talent/skill wise, you're right. KD is just a notch below Melo. But production wise? They're not even close. KD is just a much more complete player when it comes to being efficient. But I don't think the ratings are trying to reflect efficiency (think Wins Produced (Wp48), not PER or NBA EFF)...I think the ratings are trying to capture a player's skill and talent, and they are accurate in that sense.

Think about the ratings. 99 Med shot? What does that mean? To me, it means a guy has the talent to score from midrange. But how does that actually translate to production? Wouldn't a 40 Med shot be more accurate, to reflect the actual shooting percentage that player makes from that range? Then we would know, "OK, so if he's open, he'll hit, say from 38-42% of his shots from this spot, and if guarded, that will go up/down depending on the defensive rating(s) of the player(s) guarding him. This would give us more precise data when using teams. But 99/87 etc. ratings don't tell me accurately enough about how efficiently a player is going to score from a given position on the court. And as a coach, I would know exactly where and how to use Melo to get the most out of him...

[sticks323]

Quote: Originally Posted by jeebs9

Why don't people understand this? First off Deron Williams doesn't get as many steals as CP3 does. I'm not saying its better defense or not. But this has to be shown in the game. Just like Rondo gets those pesky steals. CP3 gets them too. "Always remember as long as the player plays like the player in really life." Secondly you have to think about CP3 size. He is only 6'0. While Deron is 6-3. Remember My player the smaller the player the more skill points he gets.....LMAO JK about that one

im saying CP3 was injured most of the year...there is no way he should be a 95...while Deron Williams led his team to the playoffs playing at an all-star level... He scores more and he had double digit assist...If they were both 93, that would be cool

[big_larry]

How is Tony Parker only a 78, he's top 5 pg's in the league.

[sticks323]

Quote: Originally Posted by RocketTMac1

Turner is a SG and is an all around player my dude. Im a Jennings fan but he still has alot to prove. He is very streaky. And CP3 will prove once again who is the dominate point guard. people forget he was 2nd in MVP voting a couple yrs back

Jennings has alot to prove... Turner is a freaking Rookie, he has no stats...he should not be better than a player that led his team to the playoffs and that has also scored 55 points in a game..that isnt easy...

[Pokes404]

Quote: Originally Posted by jeebs9

So what are you saying?...lol just kidding I think KD is just one notch under Melo. But also understand not having a post game like Melo hurts his overall rating at the end of the day.

I'm saying he may not be the greatest defender in the league, but he's pretty solid on that end. Mostly, I'm just trying to end this notion that he's only an offensive player that becomes a liability on the defensive end. The guy rebounds, forces people to alter their shots due to his length, tips passes, and has gotten pretty good at the come-from-behind block (though he's still not at Lebron's level). He struggles with pick-and-roll situations and isn't the strongest on-ball defender, but for a guy with his kind of offensive game, he's a pretty reliable defender.

That first post did kind of come off as "He's not a bad defender. He may not be the best, or good, or average, or below average ... but he's not bad." lol