NBA Elite 11 Video: OS Exclusive All-New Hands-On Control: OJ Mayo

[gamerkid421]

i liked this video looked cool can't wait to try it out

[RubenDouglas]

WOW. I missed all this good back and forth. I'm always open to every basketball release. ( I can't say no) so this one will get an honest look.

Looks can be deceiving, just as CH2k8 has some quirkiness to it, this game may shine in other areas.

Appreciate the insights rEAnimator

[Blak_Baki_Hanma]

SMGDH

I counted a MINIMUM of 4 steps after Mayo picked up his dribble... and NO WHISTLE.
Like I've said several times, the rules define the sport... so I have no idea what sport their trying to recreate here... but it sure isn't basketball.

But the youngsters should love it... hell you get 2-on-2 nba jams AND 5-on-5 nba jams all in one box.
How exactly does "Skill Based" factor into a game that's missing the most fundamental of rules.
It's "Park Ball"... a pickup game.

I'm tired of flaming this game but these dudes keep handin out free gas cans.
Show me an actual BASKETBALL video with the rules intact...
Is that too much to ask?

Seriously... vertical leap issues? That's the least of what I saw.

How does the guy get beat on the pump fake but still recovery in a backpedal to end up hip to hip with oj mayo at the basket? That's some HELLIFIED DEFENSIVE RECOVERY!

LOL... let me guess... EARLY BUILD, right?
Or are we just not supposed to notice?... or care?

[Blak_Baki_Hanma]

I definitely appreciate the insights but I've coughed up a king's ransom on nba live over the years...
And I'm feeling awfully jilted when it comes to the return on my investment.
I expected so much more after all this time (and money) but it HONESTLY feels like very little understanding of simulation basketball has been conveyed in the finished products that I've continued to purchase year after year.

At some point I would like to hear what EA's goal is when creating their basketball games...
The "real goal"... not the sterilized press release.
And if they aren't achieving their goal in each development cycle, do they really think they'll achieve or maintain community/consumer support?

Defense (that thing that's always omitted from NBA Live) wins championships... not 1-on-1 ankle breaks and juke chains.
IDK... MAYBE IT'S ME!!
Maybe I'm just too old to identify with EA's ideology.
Maybe you CAN have fun playing fantasy ball.
I just can't get with it.

Sorry for the rant but my favorite franchise went down the $#!tt&r and that kinda hurts.
Real talk.

[rEAnimator]

Quote: Originally Posted by Blak_Baki_Hanma

SMGDH I counted a MINIMUM of 4 steps after Mayo picked up his dribble... and NO WHISTLE. Like I've said several times, the rules define the sport... so I have no idea what sport their trying to recreate here... but it sure isn't basketball. But the youngsters should love it... hell you get 2-on-2 nba jams AND 5-on-5 nba jams all in one box. How exactly does "Skill Based" factor into a game that's missing the most fundamental of rules. It's "Park Ball"... a pickup game. I'm tired of flaming this game but these dudes keep handin out free gas cans. Show me an actual BASKETBALL video with the rules intact... Is that too much to ask? Seriously... vertical leap issues? That's the least of what I saw. How does the guy get beat on the pump fake but still recovery in a backpedal to end up hip to hip with oj mayo at the basket? That's some HELLIFIED DEFENSIVE RECOVERY! LOL... let me guess... EARLY BUILD, right? Or are we just not supposed to notice?... or care?

I just watched it again, and I saw a two footed pro hop followed immediately by a two footed take off.

Where are you getting the other two steps from? At the tail end of the behind the back move? I couldn't really see the timing of the footwork on that part of the move in the video.

[Tha_Kid]

The ball coming down animation is interrupted by the pro hop. Same thing that goes on with most of the sliding by the ballcarrier (from other footage). The dribble animation isn't always playing out, there are a bunch of dribbles against the air.

[rEAnimator]

Quote: Originally Posted by Blak_Baki_Hanma

I definitely appreciate the insights but I've coughed up a king's ransom on nba live over the years... And I'm feeling awfully jilted when it comes to the return on my investment. I expected so much more after all this time (and money) but it HONESTLY feels like very little understanding of simulation basketball has been conveyed in the finished products that I've continued to purchase year after year. At some point I would like to hear what EA's goal is when creating their basketball games... The "real goal"... not the sterilized press release. And if they aren't achieving their goal in each development cycle, do they really think they'll achieve or maintain community/consumer support? Defense (that thing that's always omitted from NBA Live) wins championships... not 1-on-1 ankle breaks and juke chains. IDK... MAYBE IT'S ME!! Maybe I'm just too old to identify with EA's ideology. Maybe you CAN have fun playing fantasy ball. I just can't get with it. Sorry for the rant but my favorite franchise went down the $#!tt&r and that kinda hurts. Real talk.

Give the defense a chance in the demo. I think it's the best yet in a bball game. But I'm biased obviously.

If you don't like it, no harm done right?

[Blak_Baki_Hanma]

True indeed re... I'm hoping for the best.

And the extra steps (which I clearly see) may be animation/footplanting/skating issues...
But the rules omissions have been gamebreakers, seriously.

I'm hoping the demo can restore some confidence...
Because I just can't keep buying 2 titles.

Either way... thanks for being so responsive.
I know you don't have to be so involved.
Much obliged!