NBA Elite 11 Video: OS Exclusive All-New Hands-On Control: OJ Mayo

[coolcras7]

Quote: Originally Posted by tomzenns

the only way for people to stop talking trash about this game is to give a demo.

No the only way to stop people from talking as you said "trash" is to make a better game and stop giving us 1 minute clips when the game comes out in 3 weeks, plus it would be nice if they told us when the demo was coming out, if there is a date already set what is the point of keeping it a secret.

[Tha_Kid]

Quote: Originally Posted by Boilerbuzz

I agree with what you're saying. The only caveat however is that it SEEMS EA dogging elements of Live 10 that many felt were its strength. The fact that controls was a focus, when most felt that controls was the best out there, speaks to that.

I thought they dogged what control elements deserved dogging (the suction animations) while presenting the 1-to-1 as better. I mean I agree with you (why defend marketing videos), but I found the whole "shooting was based on luck" much more inflammatory than anything else about controls.

Even then, I think total control is just a marketing way of saying "more choices". They just broke things down an extra level. I also spent most of last year on Live 10 because of how great the general controls were.

From the very first announcement about Elite, EA showed they had an internal goal and method to attempt to achieve it (focus on Elite's controls & physics). Gamers didn't ask for it, nor did we get most of what we did ask for. EA should expect the requisite backlash for that.

[23]

I think its a bad idea to put the devs under that kind of a situation.

Who goes from full gameplay to 1 minute clips? Thats like backwards marketing, especially when it wasnt even extra ordinary.

Im not trying to rock the boat but good lord whats really going on man?

Im not of the its Live 07 again and theyre going to die group but dude this stuff is just weird to the average viewer.

[Saviour]

The problem that I have with these Elite videos is that the developers seem bent on showing you highlights. Can they show me some simulation style basketball and stop harping on highlights in each video. I know they had to release videos after that Boozer video was released, but even when they try to slow the game down all the players do is cross over, around the back, stutter step, etc. It gets old real fast just watching, and I am not playing the game yet.

[Tha_Kid]

Quote: Originally Posted by 23

As far as the discussion on the issues im pointing out because truthfully its a huge exercise in frustration. It shouldnt even be in this years game that guys are magically getting back on defense again.. the rating editing was painstaking effort and honestly I dont trust EA to rectify them since its never been done before.. im just being honest

That's fair. They (Elite Team) have yet to acknowledge the effectiveness of last year's ratings edits, so that's not only frustrating but doesn't induce trust to look at them when addressing the issue.

[Boilerbuzz]

Quote: Originally Posted by Tha_Kid

I thought they dogged what control elements deserved dogging (the suction animations) while presenting the 1-to-1 as better. I mean I agree with you (why defend marketing videos), but I found the whole "shooting was based on luck" much more inflammatory than anything else about controls.

Oh yeah. We totally agree. But they dogged elements of control that you mention, but changed things that didn't need to be changed to address those issues. So, in essence, what was good in Live 10 got pissed on. At least what *I* felt was good.

Quote: Originally Posted by Tha_Kid

Even then, I think total control is just a marketing way of saying "more choices". They just broke things down an extra level. I also spent most of last year on Live 10 because of how great the general controls were.

I can see that. But it remains to be seen how much more choices we really have. Note that the discussion, in part, is based on folks feeling as if they're seeing the same stuff over and over again.

Quote: Originally Posted by Tha_Kid

From the very first announcement about Elite, EA showed they had an internal goal and method to attempt to achieve it (focus on Elite's controls & physics). Gamers didn't ask for it, nor did we get most of what we did ask for. EA should expect the requisite backlash for that.

And THAT is a huge, huge reason why the backlash is so strong. People not only feel as if their issues were ignored, but that the things they liked were ignored by being "revamped". It's a slap and a backslap in the face to some.

[yungflo]

Quote: Originally Posted by Boilerbuzz

I agree with what you're saying. The only caveat however is that it SEEMS EA dogging elements of Live 10 that many felt were its strength. The fact that controls was a focus, when most felt that controls was the best out there, speaks to that.

I agree, the controls could have waited. Out of all areas, they wanted to start with control? That could have waited til next yr, and improve on live 10's GP, even with rtp. Nothing needed a total overhaul.

Maybe graphics, but that's it.

You'll see when they admit this all in elite 12 when they don't appease the metacritic rate of 90 they so desperately want instead of listening to the gamers.

Just like 07's travesty.

OS is not a small community, We are sims nation, we are a microcosm of what sim/casual gamers want, go look at that wishlist, its long. To say people are bashing(because of negative constructive criticism) is ridiculous, that wishlist and complaints indicates passion for sim bball.

[Boilerbuzz]

Quote: Originally Posted by Saviour

The problem that I have with these Elite videos is that the developers seem bent on showing you highlights. Can they show me some simulation style basketball and stop harping on highlights in each video. I know they had to release videos after that Boozer video was released, but even when they try to slow the game down all the players do is cross over, around the back, stutter step, etc. It gets old real fast just watching, and I am not playing the game yet.

So you're saying you just want to see this basketball game just play some basic basketball... I feel you there. But that what I felt the gameplay footage was doing and that's why I was hoping for more than a 1 minute clip of 5 seconds of actions.