NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

[Boilerbuzz]

Quote: Originally Posted by fatleg3

Quote: Originally Posted by Boilerbuzz Oh come on man. You can sit there and try to reinterpret the message all you want. Don't try to pretend that this was not the message being sent: "Please forgive the look of the game. We focused more on feel." When you OPENLY tell people to focus more on one aspect, that means less on the aspect they admit is falling short. There's no talking around that. As far as this goes that is not what im getting because when i see the videos i look at the animations plus the control.

How can you "look at" controls? Granted, there are some things you can read about controls when looking, but there's no way in on this Earth you can really see anything definitive about controls from a 3rd party view. That's just not possible. But you see what you want to see. Extrapolating is very dangerous. But, you'll convince yourself that it's all good before even touching the game. So, I guess there's nothing else to say on your side. Others are not so easily convinced. Respect that and don't assume they "see" the same things you think you see.

Quote: Originally Posted by fatleg3

Im not going to sit here and sugar coat anything. But everything about whats been going on here is based of opinions.

Well, everything you've said has been YOUR opinion. Even what you think you "see" in controls is based SOLELY on opinion and how much you buy into what EA has been telling you about the game. You choose to use sugar to form your opinion and others choose to use salt. It's that simple.

Quote: Originally Posted by fatleg3

With that said I for myself pay more attention to whats different which is the controls and what you can do because the graphics are basically the same as live 10. Not much has changed. So to me its kind of like looking at the same game but its being played a little different. And im not saying the graphics being the same is a good thing because there are things that can be improved on

Then you don't disagree with many of the people you've been arguing with. The focus on what's missing while you focus on what was added. Again, the way I see it - many people feel that the area of neglect should not have been necessary. You think it was an acceptable compromise. Seems you and the devs agree. Forgive those that disagree.

[coolcras7]

Quote: Originally Posted by JerseySuave4

plus keep in mind that until we got those user gameplay vids the only vids we had gotten was when a Elite producer happened to see something they liked while playing the game, and even those vids werent always that great. But it just seemed dumb that the only vids we were getting were when the guys would pick 1 play out of the many hours of playing the game. So we didnt know if the game was any good or if they had to wait until they could actually find a play good enough to show. Then once the user gameplay vids came out they pretty much had to release gameplay vids quickly. Like you said, it doesnt look good when your competition is putting out vids and youre not because then it appears like youre trying to hide your flaws and with the way things are these days with 24/7 forums to express your thoughts and opinions, people wont accept not seeing the game before it comes out.

It was not just that they were not releasing videos it was the fact that we were a almost a month away from release and no one knew how the game looked with 5 on 5

[NoTiCe_O]

I see so much options and control this games gives the user, and potential, potential, potential.

[Nines]

Live was on the right path last year. I really believed they were. It was fun to play, albeit annoying at some times... but now I watch this Elite stuff, and I don't know guys.

I just don't know. It seems stuff went hideously wrong somewhere. I'm not one to rag on games especially pre-release but I am completely baffled how they seem to have fouled up the good foundation they laid last year. People look at these vids and say they are improving, but to me it looks worse with every viewing.

I just don't know.

[fatleg3]

I really think people are trying to get others banned.

But anyway back to the video,

with live 10 the tipoffs looked like canned animations also that was per-determined as soon as it started. It looks like it will be the same

[Dalsanto0026]

The last couple of videos with the broadcast cam make the game look better. An improvement over the north/south cam. Some of those dunks looked quite nice though the step back j's look goofy.

There's still a lot of work to do but overall not bad. I'm still eager to try the demo.

[fatleg3]

Quote: Originally Posted by Dalsanto0026

The last couple of videos with the broadcast cam make the game look better. An improvement over the north/south cam. Some of those dunks looked quite nice though the step back j's look goofy. There's still a lot of work to do but overall not bad. I'm still eager to try the demo.

I can see people using the step back jumper a lot because every time the user did it he hide room to shoot

[BDM313]

looks good a bit fast since it was filmed from the video camera overall the cam angle makes elite look so much better cant wait til the demo drops