NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

[fatleg3]

Quote: Originally Posted by Boilerbuzz

So, you think the player models changed in a matter of days? When the game should already be done? Really?

Bruh please stop it. Did i say that. No. I have said it earlier that i think the way the games are recorded have something to do with the player models. Looking at the knicks, and pistons and clippers videos it is so hard to tell who was who. I had to look at the names to see who was who.

But if you go back and look at the elite24 videos you can better tell who is who in those videos

[23]

Quote: Originally Posted by fatleg3

Bruh please stop it. Did i say that. No. I have said it earlier that i think the way the games are recorded have something to do with the player models. Looking at the knicks, and pistons and clippers videos it is so hard to tell who was who. I had to look at the names to see who was who. But if you go back and look at the elite24 videos you can better tell who is who in those videos

Ummm, I was there and I didnt know who some of those guys were man

When Tyson Chandler dunked I had to ask who that was because I couldnt tell who he was, plus he jumped from way out of his way

JaVale McGee was a dark skinned dude, and he's like a high yellow fella.. it was all the way wrong. Thats one reason the cam was shaky because i had to get close up so you could tell what you were looking at because from afar you would've just seens men running around a court

Im not slamming the graphics because it looked like a dulled out NBA Live 10 to me when I first saw it so if you could stand last year im sure you'll be okay with this year. Its the constant changes back and forth that I dont get.

Had they made the models and angle and everything like it was in the hangar then it would be nice looking to me.

[fatleg3]

Quote: Originally Posted by 23

Ummm, I was there and I didnt know who some of those guys were man When Tyson Chandler dunked I had to ask who that was because I couldnt tell who he was, plus he jumped from way out of his way JaVale McGee was a dark skinned dude, and he's like a high yellow fella.. it was all the way wrong. Thats one reason the cam was shaky because i had to get close up so you could tell what you were looking at because from afar you would've just seens men running around a court Im not slamming the graphics because it looked like a dulled out NBA Live 10 to me when I first saw it so if you could stand last year im sure you'll be okay with this year. Its the constant changes back and forth that I dont get. Had they made the models and angle and everything like it was in the hangar then it would be nice looking to me.

You are right. Some players you cant tell and i think that is ea not doing everyones likeliness. They not necessarily get only the superstars but it seems as if they pay more attention to the better players. Cause even in the orl video you cant tell who duhon, reddick, and quntis richardson is without seeing their names.

But with the last 3 videos i couldnt tell who anyone was. Not even chris paul or stodimire(yes i know i screwed his name up bad) And i remember with 10 stodimire was one of the best looking players as far as resembling there real life person

[Boilerbuzz]

Quote: Originally Posted by fatleg3

They say pay attention MORE on control then visual. That is not pay attention to control but dont mind the visuals. I mean you have no choice but to see the visuals when looking at the video but the focus should be on control

Oh come on man. You can sit there and try to reinterpret the message all you want. Don't try to pretend that this was not the message being sent: "Please forgive the look of the game. We focused more on feel." When you OPENLY tell people to focus more on one aspect, that means less on the aspect they admit is falling short. There's no talking around that.

Quote: Originally Posted by fatleg3

i really think that when they say judgement they mean as far as "im not going to buy this game, or this game is horrible, or live 10' 08' and 07' is better". of course people are going to have opinions on how it looks.

Of course they will. For my tastes, I don't mind how the game looks. I don't think it looks very exciting and I think some of the blends and warping are pretty ugly. But if controls are that great then you just have to weigh how much that means to your on a personal level. Again, some people feel there should be no compromise.

Quote: Originally Posted by fatleg3

The dev are seeing the same thing we are seeing. If they overreacted to them like everyone is doing then they would not continue to release videos

Well yes and no. At some point, they ARE beholden to the fans or the fans will lose all faith. There's really no excuse not to release videos when your competitor is releasing them. Then when the Elite 11 event videos came out, they pretty much had to go into damage control. Don't forget, before those videos, people assumed the media silence meant trouble. So they have to show something and they can't hide too much. What they CAN do play shells and say, "Hey, focus on THIS is this video, and THAT in that video." But that's if they feel the need to hide anything of course. I'm just saying that the fact that they are showing videos doesn't mean they don't recognize it can look really bad to people.

[ehh]

Quote: Originally Posted by Dawgthem

So the freebie game has the sigs but the game your buying dosen't?

At this point I'm pretty sure I'm paying $60 for NBA Jam and getting Elite for free lol.

[fatleg3]

[quote=Boilerbuzz;2041563206]Oh come on man. You can sit there and try to reinterpret the message all you want. Don't try to pretend that this was not the message being sent: "Please forgive the look of the game. We focused more on feel." When you OPENLY tell people to focus more on one aspect, that means less on the aspect they admit is falling short. There's no talking around that.

As far as this goes that is not what im getting because when i see the videos i look at the animations plus the control.

Im not going to sit here and sugar coat anything. But everything about whats been going on here is based of opinions.

With that said I for myself pay more attention to whats different which is the controls and what you can do because the graphics are basically the same as live 10. Not much has changed. So to me its kind of like looking at the same game but its being played a little different. And im not saying the graphics being the same is a good thing because there are things that can be improved on

[coolcras7]

Quote: Originally Posted by ehh

At this point I'm pretty sure I'm paying $60 for NBA Jam and getting Elite for free lol.

nope you are paying 60 for a dumbed down Jam game only the Wii will have the full game.

[JerseySuave4]

Quote: Originally Posted by Boilerbuzz

Well yes and no. At some point, they ARE beholden to the fans or the fans will lose all faith. There's really no excuse not to release videos when your competitor is releasing them. Then when the Elite 11 event videos came out, they pretty much had to go into damage control. Don't forget, before those videos, people assumed the media silence meant trouble. So they have to show something and they can't hide too much. What they CAN do play shells and say, "Hey, focus on THIS is this video, and THAT in that video." But that's if they feel the need to hide anything of course. I'm just saying that the fact that they are showing videos doesn't mean they don't recognize it can look really bad to people.

plus keep in mind that until we got those user gameplay vids the only vids we had gotten was when a Elite producer happened to see something they liked while playing the game, and even those vids werent always that great. But it just seemed dumb that the only vids we were getting were when the guys would pick 1 play out of the many hours of playing the game. So we didnt know if the game was any good or if they had to wait until they could actually find a play good enough to show.

Then once the user gameplay vids came out they pretty much had to release gameplay vids quickly. Like you said, it doesnt look good when your competition is putting out vids and youre not because then it appears like youre trying to hide your flaws and with the way things are these days with 24/7 forums to express your thoughts and opinions, people wont accept not seeing the game before it comes out.