NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Oklahoma City Thunder @ Detroit Pistons

[lebron6_james]

@reanimator, what is your opinion about Da czar post in other thread?

about this:

"Okay I understand your position much much better now. Thanks for breaking that down for me. I can see how you have come to that conclusion. Honestly I hope your right. The last thing we need is for elite to tank.


When I hear things like they sacrificed the reality of the mechanics of jumping to enhance control though I have to think that is a directional..IE Hockey Guy inspired change.

I fear the day when we elevate the control outside of the realm of reality simply to fulfill a marketing manifesto. What's next ? These are EXACTLY the types of decisions I was referring to when I said that Basketball is not Hockey...

The timing of the knee bend allows the offensive player to make a proper read. It enhances the effect of pump fakes and hesitation moves... It allows people to pull up right in your grill and your still able to challenge the shot without getting an abnormal amount of blocks. Knee bends on jumping to challenge shots IRL force you to ANTICIPATE to get a block.

This leads to the cat and mouse game between the offense and the defense. IF you want to block it you have to commit early which opens the way for my pumpfake to wreak havoc with your anticipation.

I wouldn't expect Hockey dude to understand this and although guys love the "response" of having that control it is not based on the fundamental principals of the sport or the mechanics of how the human body works...

Basketball is a game of rhythm and timing and style WITH substance. Control and power with grace and fluidity of movement. You absolutely can NOT have a simulation of the NBA experience without that. Its not one or the other. Its not control vs animation. This is not hockey.. the timing and movement is as important as the strategy. As you can see from my one example above it is indeed tied into the strategy.

This is not to differ with your point because I can honestly see that. We all want a better game. My reminding them of the things that I see as important to the soul of the game is not in opposition to anyone who wishes to enjoy the game as is or to support the company."

he was replying to kingpnp post about control vs animation.

i believe Da_czar make a great argument about control & animation should work together not separated like we seeing in elite videos.

[bullitt_711]

Quote: Originally Posted by sportyguyfl31

Has DNA % been scrapped? If it has, I'll be extremely disappointed. One of the things that I liked about Live 10, is that there were things that you simply couldnt do with a player, because the %'s werent in your favor, as opposed to being governed by ratings. I like the game, but if DNA is gone, that is going to be tough for me to deal with. Dynamic DNA was why I played Live 10 so much last year.

good question

[bullitt_711]

r u guys serious with the fast breaks, lol. why aren't their more fastbreaks, lol.

they should make watching/knowing basketball a prerequisite for this game. I wonder why you guys show interest in a bball game if you don't understand basketball? What is your knowledge? The top 10 dunks on ESPN and the and1 series?

[23]

Quote: Originally Posted by bullitt_711

r u guys serious with the fast breaks, lol. why aren't their more fastbreaks, lol. they should make watching/knowing basketball a prerequisite for this game. I wonder why you guys show interest in a bball game if you don't understand basketball? What is your knowledge? The top 10 dunks on ESPN and the and1 series?

It has plagued this series for a couple of years now and yes they are serious.

Basketball is a balanced game. Teams dont run halfcourt sets the entire time, nor do they break all game long without calling plays

So therefore its one of those gripes that are legit that people have.

It looks like some guys on here haven't played the past few Live's in a row.

[Boilerbuzz]

Quote: Originally Posted by 23

It has plagued this series for a couple of years now and yes they are serious. Basketball is a balanced game. Teams dont run halfcourt sets the entire time, nor do they break all game long without calling plays So therefore its one of those gripes that are legit that people have. It looks like some guys on here haven't played the past few Live's in a row.

Honestly, if you gimp the fastbreak, you take away a MAJOR component of basketball for the teams that create points off of defense. But, it remains to be seen if there are no fastbreaks. The game seemed to have plenty in your videos...

[23]

I honestly dont remember from mine but the cpu definitely has to have Fb's

The Knicks video for instance made it stick out even more because they were intentionally slowing it down. Thats a direct contradiciton to Dantoni basketball.

After Live 08 the Fb's stopped, not pushing the ball up, but Fb's themselves.
Matter of fact at one point last year I think C's ran with you and guards stayed away from any breaks.

It definitely cripples the game without it.

[rEAnimator]

Quote: Originally Posted by wmassie

Does not look like fastbreak will be in the demo which means that it won't be in the retail version (heavy sigh)

I really have no idea where this concern is coming from, but there are definitely fast breaks in the game.

Three on two, two on one and all by yourself. I've seen them all happen.

[zetnom49]

great presentation. Im more of a 2K fan than Live, but Live 10 was actually an upgrade cuz i stopped rockin with yall after that Superstar **** came into the games. But the presentation sounds great like a said, and yall ma****as keep sayin it looks like PS1 or PS2 obviously just clicked play and didnt bother reading

"The game is played on a pre-final build on All Star difficulty." Soooooo STFU.