NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Oklahoma City Thunder @ Detroit Pistons

[havok023]

Quote: Originally Posted by blingballa333

If my memory serves me right I remember a lot of people really enjoying the gameplay videos of Live 10. Based soley on the fact that it just animated better. But control is what they are preaching this year so hopefully when we get the controller in our hands it will immerse you so much that you won't notice some of the things you see in the videos. Now, speaking of the video. The video, once again in my opionion, doesn't animate very well. Durant's drive and foul should have simply never happened. he pretty much barreled through Prince like he wasn't there. But what dissapointed me the most was that the AI seems very reminiscent of Live 10. Generally stagnant and there often seems to be only two things happening: 1. An isolation, or 2. A "one pass and shoot" offense. I just hope that they tweaked the AI becuase that is who I generally play and that was what kept me from really enjoying Live 10.

i never pay attention to stuff like that as long as the game is fun and im not cheesed on in every online game i enter

[johnrice20022002]

Quote: Originally Posted by JWiLL02

No...because Live 10 was a huge step in the right direction. They laid a solid foundation with the movement and controls, and the logical step would have been to build upon that with more signature animations and focus on areas that were lacking (post game, fast breaks, more contact). When Live 10 was released it had the best movement, drive and kick game and shooting responsiveness of any basketball game to date. Though it was lacking in overall depth, it nailed many basketball fundamentals that 2k10 was missing, which made it a viable alternative. I just don't understand the decision to completely abandon what they had going. I can see why Mike Wang disagreed with the direction they wanted to go, clearly his creative voice was lost in the process. Big mistake. How are they releasing a game where NBA players are dribbling laterally with the ball in the same hand like a hockey defensemen on the blue line during a powerplay? It looks ridiculous.

Agreed on all points...I'll be playing 2K11 w/ a little Live 10 mixed in and wait until next year. May give Elite 11 a rental, but I'm waiting for the demo...which needs to drop soon...like now...

[da ThRONe]

This vid is better but clearly the problems I see wont change based on user or CPU.

[SacKings1999]

Quote: Originally Posted by JWiLL02

No...because Live 10 was a huge step in the right direction. They laid a solid foundation with the movement and controls, and the logical step would have been to build upon that with more signature animations and focus on areas that were lacking (post game, fast breaks, more contact). When Live 10 was released it had the best movement, drive and kick game and shooting responsiveness of any basketball game to date. Though it was lacking in overall depth, it nailed many basketball fundamentals that 2k10 was missing, which made it a viable alternative. I just don't understand the decision to completely abandon what they had going. I can see why Mike Wang disagreed with the direction they wanted to go, clearly his creative voice was lost in the process. Big mistake. How are they releasing a game where NBA players are dribbling laterally with the ball in the same hand like a hockey defensemen on the blue line during a powerplay? It looks ridiculous.

Great post. I agree, I really enjoyed Live 10, there were just a few things that kept me from playing it non-stop.

• There needed to be more dunk / layup animation variety
• They needed a deeper post game
• Better / fair A.I. play. Make ratings matter. Better differentiation between Dirk and Shaq when played by the CPU.
• Ability to play shorter season in Franchise mode
• Maybe a bit more fast breaks- as I would sometimes go an entire game with zero fast break points.

Really, stuff like that should have been their focus. Live 10 was a great foundation. Live 11 could have been amazing.

[ehh]

Yeah I'm not sure we even needed RTP, all I wanted was no more BS contact in the paint and improved animations & AI. I liked Live 10 a lot even though it lacked depth and 'prettiness".

[RayDog253]

Wow, I didn't like that video at all. All the little animation quirks that people kept referring to is finally noticeable to me.

[clivo1050]

Why does the dev do a crossover every two seconds??? That drives me crazy watching both videos. Honestly thought, I don't think they looked that bad. It was just hard to see improvements.

I'm sure the controls you need to feel yourself, but i'm not seeing the physics have much of an effect.

[Jano]

Quote: Originally Posted by RayDog253

Wow, I didn't like that video at all. All the little animation quirks that people kept referring to is finally noticeable to me.

Yes they are.. The real question is if you feel less "cheated" while playing the game will this stuff bother you?

Will the weird looking animations be okay if, while you are playing you for the most part know when you were just plain beat?

These are the questions the devs hope people answer yes with this year.