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Old 09-02-2010, 03:44 AM   #217
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Watching it back again.and damm it's bad.

If you played a lot of LIVE 08 / 09 / 10....you'll see so many things that killed those games still there. Anyone defending this game must not have played much of LIVE 10 as the bad bits are 100% still there. You non LIVE 10 guys will enjoy it for a few days and then hit a massive wall of frustration. So dissapointing that LIVE 10's flaws have been ignored.

Honestly, calling this "Elite" and pretending it's not simply a shell of LIVE 10 glossed up to get more of our $$$ is insulting. I've nothing against EA and I love Madden 11...but calling this a new game "Elite" etc is just a bad move IMO and presumes the customers are stupid. This is LIVE 10 with a bit of new paint. Plain and simple.
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Old 09-02-2010, 03:44 AM   #218
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You guys are brutal man...

You have to accept the fact that this generation Live is going to have those player textures, those animations, that graphics engine. Stop beating the dead horse, it aint gonna change.

Now, lets keep it real, when you get online and play game after game, what is it that you really pay attention to? I'll tell you - gameplay mechanics, A.I. teammates, realistic results after you finish at the rim, consistency, a frustration-less experience, no game killing bugs, no cheese go-to moves, etc...etc... the list goes on.

You can harp on what cant be changed until armageddon, but you arent talking about real-world experience. When it comes down to it, simulation basketball is about good players being rewarded for playing well and smart. And I don't care if I have to control a wire-framed player without a body, I just want to get online and beat people with skill not luck. That's what it comes down to at the end of the day.

RTP is the first step towards giving us a frustration free experience. Scenarios play out in Elite the way they play out in real life. Now you won't see that from videos, but when you're in control I guarantee you will see this. RTP is really something you can't show off in these 5 on 5 videos, you could do it in an artistic commercial fashion but not through user vs user vids.

I recommend you hold your reservations until AFTER the demo.

Never choose style over substance.
Thank you. Everyone sees how detailed 2k is and thinks its the better game automatically. The point out the dumbest things that you would never see if you are playing the game. They are like your nagging mother when you are 15yrs old.
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Old 09-02-2010, 03:45 AM   #219
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@fatleg3, exactly my point... which is why when people play the demo they will say "ahah!" "Eureka!" No more sucked in animations, control over everything and physics to realistically calculate outcomes of collisions and penetrating finishes.

Focus on positives and negatives of what Elite 11 CAN DO and not what it cant do - i.e. 1000 animations, photo-real skin textures and lighting etc.. etc...

Appreciate that most of Live 10 frustrations have been removed...and say thanks.

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Watching it back again.and damm it's bad.

If you played a lot of LIVE 08 / 09 / 10....you'll see so many things that killed those games still there. Anyone defending this game must not have played much of LIVE 10 as the bad bits are 100% still there. You non LIVE 10 guys will enjoy it for a few days and then hit a massive wall of frustration. So dissapointing that LIVE 10's flaws have been ignored.

Honestly, calling this "Elite" and pretending it's not simply a shell of LIVE 10 glossed up to get more of our $$$ is insulting. I've nothing against EA and I love Madden 11...but calling this a new game "Elite" etc is just a bad move IMO and presumes the customers are stupid. This is LIVE 10 with a bit of new paint. Plain and simple.
Don't you mean old paint .
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FIRST OFF I ENJOYED LIVE 10 BETTER THAN 2k10 and im a beast at both games IF THIS IS really users total control then that was some dam good stick skills I LIKE THE PACE OF THE GAME DEFFENATELY LOOKS BETTER THAN LIVE 10 I LIKE THE DRIBBLING SEEMED REALISTIC IM DEF BUYING ELITE 11 NO MORE NEED FOR CONVINSING IT IS OBVIOUS PEOPLE JUST LIKE 2k11 FOR THE SAKE OF THE NAME TRUST ME AFTER AMONTH PEOPLE ARE GONA BUY ELITE BECAUSE THEY ARE BORED OF THE SAME 2k11 GAMEPLAY (IN MY EYES IS LOOKING EXACTLY LIKE 2k10 ) NBA ELITE 11 IS TOTAL CONTROL RUNNING A PLAY FROM TIGHT DEFENSE AND HITTING 3PT FROM SCREEN WILL FEEL LIKE A TOTAL SENSE OF ACHIEVEMENT TRUST ME
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Okay i'm going to go ahead and this this in the book man all i hear right now is 2k boys trashing the game,..and Elite gamers looking puzzled about the game but don't want to admit that the game is looooking .........trashy.and then all i hear is Elite fans sounding like they want you to show Ea compassion.. all i hear is Oh man there taking another direction thats new to gaming or..there paying mad attention to gameplay it'll get better presentation will be fixed NExt year Well guess what MOfo..............I"ll buy the game Next Year i'll buy the game next year when its fixed,,..i don't want a half fixed product. What people don't understand is its 2010 son money don't come quick i'm not giving 60 dollars saying in my head i'll buy this game to support them and next year i'll really be blown away...i'm going to buy the game that has a full package and features that i can enjoy not some game that still says there making changes and the game ships in almost 30 days i want the more confident product,...the gaming industry is a make or break process we not talking 20 dollar games people were talking full sixty.... Thiis we don't understand crap is getting absurd elite didn't do it this year so just leave it right there stop trying to build a house thats on fire let it burn down...............and then build it next year
Anybody who has defended elite has not made any excusses for they things everyone is pointing out that they think is wrong or is sayng anything like show ea some compassion. We are paying 60 dollars of are money also so we want the best game. Most of us will get the game because we like it. Not because we want to show support to ea. Like you said its not 20 dollars. So pleas try and find someone on here that will pay 60 dollars for a game that they think is broke just to support ea who has made millions and millions off of live, fifa, nhl, and even the other genre of games like need for speed and even 007 back in the ps2 days
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FIRST OFF I ENJOYED LIVE 10 BETTER THAN 2k10 and im a beast at both games IF THIS IS really users total control then that was some dam good stick skills I LIKE THE PACE OF THE GAME DEFFENATELY LOOKS BETTER THAN LIVE 10 I LIKE THE DRIBBLING SEEMED REALISTIC IM DEF BUYING ELITE 11 NO MORE NEED FOR CONVINSING IT IS OBVIOUS PEOPLE JUST LIKE 2k11 FOR THE SAKE OF THE NAME TRUST ME AFTER AMONTH PEOPLE ARE GONA BUY ELITE BECAUSE THEY ARE BORED OF THE SAME 2k11 GAMEPLAY (IN MY EYES IS LOOKING EXACTLY LIKE 2k10 ) NBA ELITE 11 IS TOTAL CONTROL RUNNING A PLAY FROM TIGHT DEFENSE AND HITTING 3PT FROM SCREEN WILL FEEL LIKE A TOTAL SENSE OF ACHIEVEMENT TRUST ME
faaaaanboy express for you guys.... wahehehehe.... such a sad person... so sad... bwahahaha... Elite sucks just admit that guys... Peace!!!!
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FIRST OFF I ENJOYED LIVE 10 BETTER THAN 2k10 and im a beast at both games IF THIS IS really users total control then that was some dam good stick skills I LIKE THE PACE OF THE GAME DEFFENATELY LOOKS BETTER THAN LIVE 10 I LIKE THE DRIBBLING SEEMED REALISTIC IM DEF BUYING ELITE 11 NO MORE NEED FOR CONVINSING IT IS OBVIOUS PEOPLE JUST LIKE 2k11 FOR THE SAKE OF THE NAME TRUST ME AFTER AMONTH PEOPLE ARE GONA BUY ELITE BECAUSE THEY ARE BORED OF THE SAME 2k11 GAMEPLAY (IN MY EYES IS LOOKING EXACTLY LIKE 2k10 ) NBA ELITE 11 IS TOTAL CONTROL RUNNING A PLAY FROM TIGHT DEFENSE AND HITTING 3PT FROM SCREEN WILL FEEL LIKE A TOTAL SENSE OF ACHIEVEMENT TRUST ME
If people can force dunk with ease then we're in trouble I want to see Lebron try to only go to the whole for an entire quarter that would be telling.

If it truly is just the look that is suffering, they should change the marketing for this game and say this is authentic bbal,l this is realism, we are selling a great bball experience true authentic 5 on 5 gameplay, no more force dunking with the best players and the best teams, you can't get away with that. Sure it isn't visually as pretty as 2K, but itst next gen, unlike 2K. Play it, feel it. Demo drops 9/10
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