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[Cusefan]

Quote: Originally Posted by mgoblue678

And what you fail to realize is UCONN has just as many. Like I said a subpar to average QB, subpar to average wr's, a pass defense that was even worse than Michigan's last year and both starting DE's being out. If you want to point me to where I said UM will go 11-1 or something feel free. I realistically said somewhere around 7-5 , but this one of the games I feel confident due to the particular match ups. UCONN should have trouble slowing down UM's offense and they don't have the potent passing game to take advantage of UM's secondary. Like I said the match up with ND creates more problems.

Lets be fair to UCONN, they did have a starting CB killed 7 games into the season, If Jasper Howard is not killed, UCONN goes 10-2. I really hope for your sake that Michigan is not thinking like you are, because you are going to be in for a very rude awakening.

[mgoblue678]

Quote: Originally Posted by Cusefan

You apparently did not listen to me last year, I seem to recall the Michigan Defense getting torched against any decent offense last year. I am not obsessed with Grob, I just know what a lousy coach he is. Lets look at some 2009 Michigan Defensive Rankings: Total Defense 82 Scoring Defense 77 Pass Defense 67 Rushing Defense 91 They are not nearly as bad as the 2008 Syracuse Defensive rankings, but its about what one would expect from a crappy coach who goes to to teach better players.

And if you actually watched Michigan last year you would know depth and talent were lacking. Not to mention inexperience at a certain spots. Even the best defensive coordinator could not have done that much better.

I never claimed Robinson was a great defensive coordinator, but over his career as d-coordinator he has shown an ability to be solid.

What you are doing though is cherry picking one season or certain seasons to prove your point about him instead of looking at his whole career. The only other bad years he had as a defensive coordinator was with the Chiefs when the talent on their defense was terrible.

[mgoblue678]

Quote: Originally Posted by Sportsforever

Look, not disagreeing that UM should win the game. Just not surprised if they don't...nothing surprises me in CFB anymore.

Ok, that was all my point was. The original post I made in this thread that people reacted to was that this same simulation gave UCONN a 95% chance of winning which is one the reasons I don't find it credible. If people want to check out mgoblog where I read that at, there are a number of other things it predicts as well not related to Michigan that damage it's credibility.

My original point was I just find it kind of silly to put much stock into things like this.

But if people want to believe UCONN's has a 95% chance of winning when it is closer to a tossup they can, doesn't make it any less ridiculous though.

[Cusefan]

Quote: Originally Posted by mgoblue678

And if you actually watched Michigan last year you would know depth and talent were lacking. Not to mention inexperience at a certain spots. Even the best defensive coordinator could not have done that much better. I never claimed Robinson was a great defensive coordinator, but over his career as d-coordinator he has shown an ability to be solid. What you are doing though is cherry picking one season or certain seasons to prove your point about him instead of looking at his whole career. The only other bad years he had as a defensive coordinator was with the Chiefs when the talent on their defense was terrible.

Well considering I have been watching his progress as a coach for the past 5 years, I would say I have more than enough time to make a educated statement in that, he blows as a Coach. If he proves me wrong, then I will be here to eat crow. But last year I was right, You said he was a good defensive Coordinator and he did not help your cause.

Can you even point to one thing in the past 5 years that proves he is a capable Defensive Coordinator? In his last season at Syracuse he said he was going to take over the reigns at DC, here are the end of season stats:

Total Offense: 109
Pass Defense 103
Rush Defense: 53
Scoring Defense: 110
Sacks:112(yes that is last in the nation)

I wont beat around the bush, I HATE Greg Robinson. He damn near ruined Everything about Syracuse football, EVERYTHING. It is not a coincidence that the Year Rutgers got good and Syracuse got Sh*****, That happened on his watch. He Ruined Every single Syracuse recruiting connection in the North East. There is literally no redeeming qualities about what he did here(except beating ND twice).

You can keep sticking up for him but it does not change the fact that he blows as a coach. I have backed up my point, show me something he has done in the last half of the decade that proves me otherwise.

[mgoblue678]

Quote: Originally Posted by Cusefan

Well considering I have been watching his progress as a coach for the past 5 years, I would say I have more than enough time to make a educated statement in that, he blows as a Coach. If he proves me wrong, then I will be here to eat crow. But last year I was right, You said he was a good defensive Coordinator and he did not help your cause. Can you even point to one thing in the past 5 years that proves he is a capable Defensive Coordinator? In his last season at Syracuse he said he was going to take over the reigns at DC, here are the end of season stats: Total Offense: 109 Pass Defense 103 Rush Defense: 53 Scoring Defense: 110 Sacks:112(yes that is last in the nation) I wont beat around the bush, I HATE Greg Robinson. He damn near ruined Everything about Syracuse football, EVERYTHING. It is not a coincidence that the Year Rutgers got good and Syracuse got Sh*****, That happened on his watch. He Ruined Every single Syracuse recruiting connection in the North East. There is literally no redeeming qualities about what he did here(except beating ND twice). You can keep sticking up for him but it does not change the fact that he blows as a coach. I have backed up my point, show me something he has done in the last half of the decade that proves me otherwise.

And those defenses at Syracuse had talent? Obviously that falls on his recruiting ability in terms of why they didn't, but those Syracuse defenses had even worse talent than Michigan's defense last year. Any way you want to slice, a defensive's coordinator success is largely dependent on the talent of the defense.

And what you fail to realize, is it is a little different being both the head coach and defensive coordinator as opposed to just the defensive coordinator. One gives you more time to focus strictly on only the defensive coaching aspect.

Like I said you whole opinion of him is based on what he did as the head coach of Syracuse, you basically said as much.

The easiest point to prove you otherwise is the number of credible/successful coaches who have hired him in the NFL and college. Obviously if he blew as much you claim those coaches shouldn't even have considered him let alone hired him.

Pretty convenient you want to throw out any years that aren't in the last 4 or 5 years when judging the guy. Like I said your cherry picking, he has had success as a defensive coordinator at times in his career whether you want to acknowledge it or not . Give the guy a decent amount of talent/depth and he has shown an ability to be a solid defensive coordinator.

Not to mention your whole argument is moot in terms of why I think UM will win this game. I don't expect UM to shut down UCONN. I expect UM to score at a high rate in this game and that UCONN will not quite be able to match, due to their subpar passing game not being able to fully exploit the weakest part of UM's defense like a better passing team might be able to.

[Cusefan]

Quote: Originally Posted by mgoblue678

And those defenses at Syracuse had talent? Obviously that falls on his recruiting ability in terms of why they didn't, but those Syracuse defenses had even worse talent than Michigan's defense last year. And what you fail to realize, is it is a little different being both the head coach and defensive cordinator as opposed to just the defensive coordinator. One gives you more time to focus strictly on only the defensive coaching aspect. Like I said you whole opinion of him is based on what he did as the head coach of Syracuse, you basically said as much. The easiest point to prove you otherwise is the number of credible/successful coaches who have hired him in the NFL and college. Obviously if he blew as much you claim those coaches shouldn't even have considered him let alone hired him.

Ok, I have backed up my statement as to why Grob Sucks as a coach. He was a Decent DC in the NFL, He shared DC duties in Texas, He was literally the worst coach in Big East History, and His 2009 Michigan Defense was not good. These are all facts, undisputed facts. We will see how many teams want him for a DC after this season.

[mgoblue678]

Quote: Originally Posted by Cusefan

Ok, I have backed up my statement as to why Grob Sucks as a coach. He was a Decent DC in the NFL, He shared DC duties in Texas, He was literally the worst coach in Big East History, and His 2009 Michigan Defense was not good. These are all facts, undisputed facts. We will see how many teams want him for a DC after this season.

All you have proved is that it is hard to have a good defense as a defensive coordinator when your defense is lacking in talent or depth. It is not impossible to, but very unlikely.

On a side note have fun expecting Syracuse to finish 4th in the Big East as this "simulation" predicts. I very much doubt that happens.

[Cusefan]

Quote: Originally Posted by mgoblue678

All you have proved is that it is hard to have a good defense as a defensive coordinator when your defense is lacking in talent or depth. It is not impossible to, but very unlikely.

The Defensive Coordinator you guys fired in 2008 is not having a problem. Scott Shafer turned around the Worst Defense in the Big East to one of the best. Syracuse Hired Grob because he was a Defensive "guru", he is obviously not.

I will be in these Forums Next Saturday, If Michigan Wins, I will be here for you to laugh at me. Just do not get upset when I say " I told you so"