NBA Elite 11 Video: Exclusive Physics Diary

[ataman5]

Again a year for ea to make it right or again leaving us feeling as this game is hopeless in ways.

I'm glad the effort the producers have put in this game, cause i can judge it only by reading, and reading what producers say.

And they brag about a lot of the feeling of the game itself, so i really need to play the demo to judge the physics on my own and how it really feels.

I'm a bit worried that it could be really hard to get it all right in one cycle and that may lead this game with its bad history to be sold not much and then will this turn out to be another rebuild cycle for elite/live 12??

All i want to see is what fifa is doing for the last 3 years including 11, they have found the base(a solid one) and build on by tweaking to perfect it.

[Pared]

Quote: Originally Posted by Jano

All I'm hoping for is an improvement over Live 10 (preferably a substantial one). One where I don't feel like throwing my controller or turning off the system every time I play lol!

If these are you expectations I doubt you will be disappointed.

Live 10 left me with an "ehh" feeling after some extended play. I know a few really liked it, but it felt like a copy of 2k's game in Live's realm.

This felt different enough that it kept me wanting to play.

My only issue is it probably won't feel as finished as I would like. There is still some "awkwardness" in the jumping from players, especially on blocks.

Hard to explain, but I just notice the lack of an appropriate gather. It's a tradeoff for the feel of control.

There are other areas like this but it's nit-picking this year. The game adds enough that is new to the genre that I'm excited about the finished product.

I just think those expecting a fully sigged, blow you out of the water NBA experience that is impossible to achieve in the time they had will be let down a bit.

[Nephilim]

Quote: Originally Posted by Pared

If these are you expectations I doubt you will be disappointed. Live 10 left me with an "ehh" feeling after some extended play. I know a few really liked it, but it felt like a copy of 2k's game in Live's realm. This felt different enough that it kept me wanting to play. My only issue is it probably won't feel as finished as I would like. There is still some "awkwardness" in the jumping from players, especially on blocks. Hard to explain, but I just notice the lack of an appropriate gather. It's a tradeoff for the feel of control. There are other areas like this but it's nit-picking this year. The game adds enough that is new to the genre that I'm excited about the finished product. I just think those expecting a fully sigged, blow you out of the water NBA experience that is impossible to achieve in the time they had will be let down a bit.

What do you think about their graphics? Colors, animations, models?

[Pared]

Colors were infinitely better overall, animations needed work and some models were really well done. I'm not crazy how they look in the media here. Almost as if they didn't have the chance to give as much attention to lesser players. The cover guys, LBJ, Artest all looked great.

The great control supercedes all that though. It was just fun. Those that nitpick are going to tear this game to pieces, sadly. But that's just this forum, and not the typical gamer IMO.

Their biggest hurdle is the mindset that they can't offer a solid basketball title. If they had someone to explain all the flash of the NBA you'd see more adoption from the general masses. They need more style in the game. Player specific things that makes the fan smile when they see it.

Kids will want to buy a game to see John Wall dance or play dress up with Jordan rather than the excellent mid-range game. Once Elite can find that NBA inspired balance you will see the sales gap close.

[Nephilim]

Quote: Originally Posted by Pared

Colors were infinitely better overall, animations needed work and some models were really well done. I'm not crazy how they look in the media here. Almost as if they didn't have the chance to give as much attention to lesser players. The cover guys, LBJ, Artest all looked great. The great control supercedes all that though. It was just fun. Those that nitpick are going to tear this game to pieces, sadly. But that's just this forum, and not the typical gamer IMO. Their biggest hurdle is the mindset that they can't offer a solid basketball title. If they had someone to explain all the flash of the NBA you'd see more adoption from the general masses. They need more style in the game. Player specific things that makes the fan smile when they see it. Kids will want to buy a game to see John Wall dance or play dress up with Jordan rather than the excellent mid-range game. Once Elite can find that NBA inspired balance you will see the sales gap close.

Thank you.

[Jano]

Quote: Originally Posted by Pared

If these are you expectations I doubt you will be disappointed. Live 10 left me with an "ehh" feeling after some extended play. I know a few really liked it, but it felt like a copy of 2k's game in Live's realm. This felt different enough that it kept me wanting to play.

Great post Pared and the part about 2K's game in Live's realm was spot on, thats what I've been tryin to say for the longest. Playing Live last year was like watching a third world country trying to fight against the US military by using US tactics.

For the US (2K10) this is great because its on their terms and their ahead by years in this department so they have nothing to fear.

But for that 3rd world country (Live 10) this is terrible way to fight because they don't have the resources, time, or experience to do everything the US can do.

So in order for the 3rd world to compete they have to change tactics, so I see this physics system being that new change. This will further separate Elite/Live from 2K and take it from being a poor 2K clone to its own individual product like you said.

And that's all I can ask for, for now because EA is in a deep hole and its going to take a lot more then a physics engine to get them out of it. But I'm going to follow them the whole way if they can continue to improve each year.

[dexvex]

Quote: Originally Posted by Pared

Their biggest hurdle is the mindset that they can't offer a solid basketball title. If they had someone to explain all the flash of the NBA you'd see more adoption from the general masses. They need more style in the game. Player specific things that makes the fan smile when they see it. Kids will want to buy a game to see John Wall dance or play dress up with Jordan rather than the excellent mid-range game. Once Elite can find that NBA inspired balance you will see the sales gap close.

pretty much.

[wbranson1]

Liked what i saw for it being a WIP.... im not expecting miracles to happen in just a year like some people... I had fun with NBA LIVE 10 and hope the fun will continue with Elite 11! Cant wait to get my hands on the demo already!