NBA Elite 11 Video: Exclusive Physics Diary

[ParisB]

Quote: Originally Posted by Muzyk23

I think you should stop hyping this game up because you are making it something it isn't and won't be. Both titles are torn apart every year in smallest detail. Get used to it.

I'm not hyping anything man I know what we had in Live 10 and know how to make reasonable expectations from what we're seeing. I'm optimistic though because I've seen titles like MVP baseball, FIFA, NHL, Fight Night, Tiger Woods etc. revolutionize sports gaming and leave the competition behind. Its not an overnight process, but I'm seeing good progress. I can see a WIP and not cut it to pieces. Very few people here give solid constructive criticism or feedback while focusing on what is being shown and looking at the strides in the overall picture. A lot of guys here already have their minds made up and just hit refresh so they can paste cookie cutter responses of how not impressed they are and that everything is wrong. Analyzing everything in slow motion makes me think they don't enjoy any video games, or at least only the ones they choose to due to biased reasons

[ehh]

Quote: Originally Posted by adwen

its pretty good but the only thing thats going to impress me is the demo

Yeah, definitely. Visually the game does not seemed to have changed much outside of the removal of canned animations. Still plenty of awkward stuff going on, like Bosh's post move. That stuff just looks bad.

This game is either going to be a big success or a gigantic flop, right now it seems like it's Live '10 with better physics and the shot stick. I gotta admit I'm a little concerned.

[Mrko]

Quote: Originally Posted by dexvex

I love how you try to classify physics engine as some minor upgrade lol.

I didn't say it was a minor upgrade, but you don't need to change the name of a game just because you added physics. They already had a somewhat decent game. Just add the physics engine and update the graphic. Changing the name makes people think this is a completely new game, when its not. They could have left the name alone and just talked about the changes they made for live11 to be better than live10

[©roke]

Quote: Originally Posted by ParisB

I'm not hyping anything man I know what we had in Live 10 and know how to make reasonable expectations from what we're seeing. I'm optimistic though because I've seen titles like MVP baseball, FIFA, NHL, Fight Night, Tiger Woods etc. revolutionize sports gaming and leave the competition behind. Its not an overnight process, but I'm seeing good progress. I can see a WIP and not cut it to pieces. Very few people here give solid constructive criticism or feedback while focusing on what is being shown and looking at the strides in the overall picture. A lot of guys here already have their minds made up and just hit refresh so they can paste cookie cutter responses of how not impressed they are and that everything is wrong. Analyzing everything in slow motion makes me think they don't enjoy any video games, or at least only the ones they choose to due to biased reasons

I don't know if you're talking about me, 'cause I saw the video in slow motion yesterday, but trust me, it was to find little details. In fact, I liked Live 10 more than 2k10, and right now, I'm looking forward to play Elite 11 and FIFA all day, lol.

[dexvex]

Quote: Originally Posted by Mrko

I didn't say it was a minor upgrade, but you don't need to change the name of a game just because you added physics. They already had a somewhat decent game. Just add the physics engine and update the graphic. Changing the name makes people think this is a completely new game, when its not. They could have left the name alone and just talked about the changes they made for live11 to be better than live10

They had a decent game and sales declined yet you still don't see why they needed to change the name?

[Jano]

Quote: Originally Posted by ehh

Yeah, definitely. Visually the game does not seemed to have changed much outside of the removal of canned animations. Still plenty of awkward stuff going on, like Bosh's post move. That stuff just looks bad. This game is either going to be a big success or a gigantic flop, right now it seems like it's Live '10 with better physics and the shot stick. I gotta admit I'm a little concerned.

All I'm hoping for is an improvement over Live 10 (preferably a substantial one). One where I don't feel like throwing my controller or turning off the system every time I play lol!

[Mrko]

Quote: Originally Posted by dexvex

They had a decent game and sales declined yet you still don't see why they needed to change the name?

So changing the name means better sales. I don't think so. Not trying to turn this into an EA vs. 2k thing, but hear me out. Madden kicked 2k's but all the way up to 2k5. 2k didn't change their name to boost sales. They made their game the best that they could, plus lowered their price. People loved it and to this day they compare it to Madden. So changing the name and adding a physics engine, won't make the game better if it's not done right. If changing a name is all you need to buy a game and for them to sell more, then go for it. Im just saying all these changes could have been just added to live.

[Jano]

Quote: Originally Posted by Mrko

So changing the name means better sales. I don't think so. Not trying to turn this into an EA vs. 2k thing, but hear me out. Madden kicked 2k's but all the way up to 2k5. 2k didn't change their name to boost sales. They made their game the best that they could, plus lowered their price. People loved it and to this day they compare it to Madden. So changing the name and adding a physics engine, won't make the game better if it's not done right. If changing a name is all you need to buy a game and for them to sell more, then go for it. Im just saying all these changes could have been just added to live.

This situation is a lil different to me because even though Madden was killin 2K in sales the difference in quality wasnt as huge as Live vs 2K.

Live 06 and 07 were terrible and stripped down games, 08 and 09 finally jumped up in terms of features but still weren't great in terms of gameplay.

Live 10 had decent gameplay but still couldn't compete with its comp on every level. All while this is happening EA has been getting a bad rap (deservedly so) for the nba Live series they lost a ton of fans during 06-08 iterations.

And after Live 10 they are finally starting to gain back some fans but they still have this cloud over their heads. So I think the name change is a good thing I don't think it will change much in terms sells.

I look at it like the change from Knockout Kings to Fight Night, this is like a start of a new era for EA bball lets just hope they can start it off right...