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Old 08-05-2010, 12:03 AM   #193
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He is definitely a great receiving TE, but because of that horrible blocking, I can't rate him any higher.

its all good. after i use your ratings ill prob do some minor tweaks of my own based on what i saw all of the last few years watching the birds.. thanks for doing this btw
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Old 08-05-2010, 12:10 AM   #194
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No problem man. At some point we will be doing roster files as well once we get some sliders that work.
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Old 08-05-2010, 10:38 PM   #195
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OK guys...for those of you have been following...all of the teams are done. All players have individual attributes for their RAW atts. These are STR, AGI, SPD, ACC, and JMP. Feel free to check them out.
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Vincent Jackson- 75?
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Old 08-06-2010, 04:30 AM   #197
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Because he is not in camp.
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I thought that might have been why. So when he comes back he will increase again.
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wow. That sounds amazing!!!!!
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Old 08-06-2010, 07:37 AM   #200
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Another point you will have to remember is that injuries do affect the OVR rating. 90s are to be rare and 80s are to be solid starters that can win you games. Celek has not been a top 10 TE in either of the last 3 seasons according to PFF...the best was last year at 16th. Cole is still on the upswing and Rocca has the tools, but lacks some consistency. Since Madden rates on potential, we can't ignore his leg strength. Sims is rated as he is because of his awesome athleticism, which is part of how Madden rates players. Weaver may be versatile, but that doesn't count for much in Madden since you have to move him around. As a pure FB, where blocking counts too, he is about right where he should be. I am aware of Avant's talents...not the fastest guy, but great hands. NO drops last season I believe. Mikell was great in 08, but he isn't the most athletic, which hurts him.


Once again, if Madden would differentiate between Athleticism and technique/skill then some of these guys would be higher/lower. But since the attributes like SPD, ACC, STR, AGI, and JMP are included in the OVR rating, they are taken into account when calculating the OVR. I will not do what that guys at EA do and simply increase a player's speed, accel, etc...when he is playing at a high level. I think that is misinterpretation. Instead, they should up the skills that MAKE a player elite and not overcompensate by simply making them more athletic.
I love this debate about Mikell....

I agree he's not a very atheletic guy and that does hurt his overall ratings. I looked at EA's rating and they gave him 85 speed and then I saw your rating and he has 80 speed....

I use a similiar speed chart to re-rate the players in NCAA Football and Mikell was closer to 78 speed for me but I gave him the additional boost up to make him 80 like you have him because it helped his overall on my roster file.

Another guy that i had to kinda avoid his combine #'s was Desean Jackson.....now I don't agree with EA's ratings on him either but then when i looked at your ratings the one thing that jumped out at me was his agility being only 86

I had to actually give him a 94 in agility and 93 speed because the game has tendency ratings that label a player and Jackson was listed as a possession WR with the low physical attributes of 86 agility and I think you had him like 87 acceleration.

So his speed I agree with we are only 1 point off but I just didn't like the fact that he was labled as a possession type WR do to his agility and acceleration being so low. The only other way around it would be to lower his catch ratings into the mid 70's then the game would consider him a speed guy again even with his agility and acceleration being in the high 80's

So i guess my question is do you try to keep a guy labled with a certain tendency or do you ignore the tendencies all together?

Like for example Carson Palmer I think he's more of pocket QB and that is how Madden assigns his tendency in the game but with 70+ speed, acceleration and agility Palmer would be borderline categorized as a scrambler type the only thing that pushes him back into the balanced QB tendency logic is his passing Ratings.....but if he had terrible accuarcy the game would list him as a scrambler instead of pocket QB or balanced QB

Not sure if any of that stuff concerns you just wanted to know if you try to stay within a guys actual tendency category or not because sometimes the ratings trigger a guy to play different from his actual style depending on how you lable him by tendencies.
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