NBA 2K11 Developer Insight: "Jordan Challenge" - Some Historic Teams Announced

[KyotoCarl]

Quote: Originally Posted by youvalss

Ok, I have a question, and hopefully someone who knows something (behind the scenes, for now) can reply: I think it would be cool if in any of these MJ Challenges, prior to starting the challenge, we had like a little intro, maybe a short video from the real game. something that would get you in the mood, and briefly explain the context of the events. Is this thing in the game? And to everyone here, would you like that (if it's not too late)?

Sounds like a good idea. I'd love it!

[Grazz1]

Quote: Originally Posted by youvalss

And the '93 Cavs. MJ had another great shot against them. Scottie Pippen? Top 50 player, not 12-man roster pick for me. I'd pick SF's who could lead a team and took the last shots, drew the defense and were the center of attention for the opposing team. Pippen was great, but doesn't fit this formula. But that's my opinion. I'd pick Bird, Dr. J, Wilkins...and if we're talking about today's players - LBJ. Oh, and Grant Hill in his prime, for sure. Pippen was and will always be the No.2 guy. Nothing wrong with that, but I wouldn't put No.2 guys on the best 12-man roster.

Yeah, everyone has an opinion. That's what's great about the sport. Everyone should read Bill Simmon's book (can I say that, is that aloud?). Excellent breakdown of teams and players.

For me I'd always take Pippen over Dr J and Wilkens. For his height, killer D, full court press, ability to read the floor and lead the offence. Both Dr J and Wilkens fall into the Jordan mould. People never seem to rmeember the 22 8 and 6 Pippen put up as the Bulls won 55 in 1994 with an aging Cartwright, Paxson and rookie Kukoc (not to mention Myers, Will Perdue etc).

If I chose a top 12 roster I'd have Bird, James and Pippen as the 3 forwards. You've got everything you need in terms of options then. Shooting, dominant player on the ball and the ultimate role player and top SF defender of all time. I'll leave the drive and kick game to the Jordans and Bryants of the team.

[Grazz1]

Worth viewing, where MJ happens - http://www.operationsports.com/videoview.php?id=219

Olajuwon, Shaq, Russell
Duncan, K Malone
Bird, James, Pippen
Jordan, Bryant
Magic, Stockton by the way... Hard to leave out Kareem, easy to leave out Wilt and Oscar.

[Grazz1]

Quote: Originally Posted by youvalss

And the '93 Cavs. MJ had another great shot against them. Scottie Pippen? Top 50 player, not 12-man roster pick for me. I'd pick SF's who could lead a team and took the last shots, drew the defense and were the center of attention for the opposing team. Pippen was great, but doesn't fit this formula. But that's my opinion. I'd pick Bird, Dr. J, Wilkins...and if we're talking about today's players - LBJ. Oh, and Grant Hill in his prime, for sure. Pippen was and will always be the No.2 guy. Nothing wrong with that, but I wouldn't put No.2 guys on the best 12-man roster.

Oh and in my opinion Dr J, Wilkins, Hill. None of them were any more a number one than Pippen. Pippen just happened to be with MJ. Erving didn't reproduce his success from the ABA into the NBA and only won as second fiddle to Moses Malone. Wilkens while good was flash and never led his team that far. Swap Pippen and Hill and I think the 90's Bulls would have less rings than 6.

[youvalss]

Quote: Originally Posted by Grazz1

Oh and in my opinion Dr J, Wilkins, Hill. None of them were any more a number one than Pippen. Pippen just happened to be with MJ. Erving didn't reproduce his success from the ABA into the NBA and only won as second fiddle to Moses Malone. Wilkens while good was flash and never led his team that far. Swap Pippen and Hill and I think the 90's Bulls would have less rings than 6.

Swap Pippen and Hill, and the Bulls would have won titles since 1989 or so. Don't get me wrong, Pippen was good - especially defensively, but he was and will always be a No.2. And that's why he fit this team. If he was a No.1 player, this team wouldn't be as successful because there was no room for two No.1's. Hill was special because he was a guy who would get along with anyone, so he probably wouldn't mind being a No.2 next to MJ.
Again, nothing wrong with that, Pippen was what the team needed...at least after 1990. MJ couldn't have done it without Pippen, and vice versa. But to me he'll never be a top-12 player, no way! In order to rate him top 12, I would have to ignore many greater players who led their teams during the 60's and 70's in addition to those from the 80's. I just can't do that.

[VDusen04]

Quote: Originally Posted by jfsolo

I wonder if Barkley asked for too much money, and they said "No", so that nixed the chance for the '93 Suns to make the cut.

That was the first thing that came to mind. It seems like Charles has a history of either not liking the idea of being in basketball video games or just asking for too much cash in return for his appearance. I keep hearing these sparse rumors that he was in NBA 2K6 but I cannot recall this (I had the PS2 version).

Unfortunately, I think this is going to be as close as we're going to get:

[amra01]

Barkley was in 2k6 xbox360 and in 2k1 sega dreamcast.

[ffaacc03]

Getting back to Developers Insight ... Rod (2k) said that they were aiming at 12 insights, 1 per week, until 2k11 release ... since the first one (main topic) was posted on last 21st, can we expect the second one by sometime today?