NHL 11 Video: Disallowed Goal, Is it a Goal or Not?

[Gagnon39]

Well, I think it was a goal. So what happens? Are they going to show us the rest of this video? Does it get reviewed and declared a goal? There's no way his stick was above the crossbar.

[BooShay]

Quote: Originally Posted by BlueNGold

My jaw dropped when I seen that goal/non-goal. That was one of the coolest things I've ever seen. That isn't Rammer.

I was gunna say, i dont think that rammer lol

[KraZe]

Quote: Originally Posted by Diehardfan

Ok, its a nice feature but isn't it implemented wrong? If the ref waves it off, shouldnt the play continue until the next whistle...then, get it reviewed on video.

With that play, the puck had actually entered the net, and everyone considered the play dead. It was the Ref's decision at that point to waive off the goal because of the potential high-stick.

If it was something like a puck being shot from the blue-line, hitting a post and bouncing back into play, the goal judge may put the light on, but everyone may consider the play to still be alive thinking the puck hit the post. Once the play is dead, the play may be reviewed to find that, infact, the puck stuck the rear crossbar inside the net, therefore, good goal.

(I hope that made sense)

[Diehardfan]

Quote: Originally Posted by KraZe

With that play, the puck had actually entered the net, and everyone considered the play dead. It was the Ref's decision at that point to waive off the goal because of the potential high-stick. If it was something like a puck being shot from the blue-line, hitting a post and bouncing back into play, the goal judge may put the light on, but everyone may consider the play to still be alive thinking the puck hit the post. Once the play is dead, the play may be reviewed to find that, infact, the puck stuck the rear crossbar inside the net, therefore, good goal. (I hope that made sense)

In the Hawks-Sharks 2010 playoff round there was a similar play where the ref waved off the goal and they kept right on playing for over 2 minutes before a whistle...it was at that time they did the review. The ref in the video waves it off immediately, so play could or maybe should have continued.

[KraZe]

Quote: Originally Posted by Diehardfan

In the Hawks-Sharks 2010 playoff round there was a similar play where the ref waved off the goal and they kept right on playing for over 2 minutes before a whistle...it was at that time they did the review. The ref in the video waves it off immediately, so play could or maybe should have continued.

I'd have to see the play you're referring to, as I can't remember it off the top of my head, but every play is different. It depends on the reaction of the players/puck/referee.

Just because the ref came in right away to wave off a goal doesn't mean the play should just go on. In this scenario, there was no question the puck went in the net, and the immediate reaction is "Puck in Net = Dead Play". The ref made the decision at that point in time (which would be post-whistle due to the puck crossing the goal-line) that it was a bad goal and would be reviewed.

[actionhank]

Quote: Originally Posted by LuGer33

Not sure I agree with any of your observations. 1. I think we saw in NHL 10 w/ shooting from the knees and bat in goals that EA is very good at finding the right frequency for these sort of "wow" moment goals. I could certainly be wrong, but based on my experience w/ NHL 10, and the fact that I saw nothing even close to this from two days of playing NHL 11 late in May, I would say you needn't have to worry about this. 2. Warps around him? Not sure I notice what you mean. Looks like he just side steps the sprawling body and picks up the puck. Maybe could have been a bit more of an impact between Kessel and the forward who took the backhand, but not much. Nothing that really bothers me at least. 3. Both Atlanta d-men were human controlled. Red icon above the guy who throws the hit, and blue icon about the guy who skates away. Only Thrashers players in the clip who weren't human controlled was the goalie and the guy who made a break towards the Leafs' player who took the backhander. With all that said, the puck physics are a bit off there but I think it's still an awesome clip. Since 110% realistic isn't possible on this generation of hardware, I think everything from the original hit to the blocker save to Kessel swinging from his back on the ice to the actual "collision" between the puck mid-air and stick itself are all awesome examples of the tech driving this year's game, and of a really cool hockey play. Then of course the fact that it's waived off and reviewed is just icing on the cake. Basically everything good about that play far outweighs anything negative imo.

If you watch Kessel as he falls, his head and shoulders hit the guy who ends up taking the shot on net, but neither of them really react to it.
He just kind of moves off his path a bit, but doesn't "react" with an animation of any kind.

Not that it matters a whole lot, just a minor issue.
I just hope that if you lay a big hit on someone, and they go into another player, you don't just have some guy falling and people sliding out of the way with a skating animation.

[green94]

Quote: Originally Posted by Bash

LMAO

Mind = Blown

[green94]

Quote: Originally Posted by TreyIM2

Whatever the case, that was HOT! This will definitely be my first NHL game since I don't remember when...

You've been missing out! You will absolutely love this game.