Old Madden Ratings Site Reborn Under New Management

[GAM3R4LYF3]

Sorry to do this again but just a few Chargers ratings I would like clarification on:

Jacques Cesaire = Luis Castillo

Jacques in effectively 6 years is averaging nearly 29 total tackles, 1.5 passes defended, nearly 2 sacks, and .5 of a forced fumble per year.

While Luis in essentially 4 seasons is averaging just under 45 total tackles, just over 1 pass defended, just over 4 sacks, is forcing .5 of a fumble a year and has 2 career interceptions.

Also Nick Novak > Nate Kaeding

[rickmitchell22]

This is so necessary. No more cosmetic ratings, and no more unrealistic ratings that make for arcade moments (speed backs trucking, etc.) is what im hoing for.

[DCEBB2001]

Quote: Originally Posted by GAM3R4LYF3

Sorry to do this again but just a few Chargers ratings I would like clarification on: Jacques Cesaire = Luis Castillo Jacques in effectively 6 years is averaging nearly 29 total tackles, 1.5 passes defended, nearly 2 sacks, and .5 of a forced fumble per year. While Luis in essentially 4 seasons is averaging just under 45 total tackles, just over 1 pass defended, just over 4 sacks, is forcing .5 of a fumble a year and has 2 career interceptions. Also Nick Novak > Nate Kaeding

First of all, Castillo has been HORRIBLE against the run. Among 3-4 DEs, he was second to last against it in the ENTIRE LEAGUE. Last season, both Castillo and Cesaire only had one sack each with one QB hit each. Now Castillo had far more pressures (14 to 8) but only had 2 more tackles than Cesaire. On the whole, Cesaire actually graded out slightly better than Castillo, but Castillo was the better pass rusher and Cesaire was the better run-stopper according to the internal data. So, they have similar rating OVRs, but are rated quite differently with their attributes.

The rating desparity between the kickers is because Novak was brought in on April 3rd to provide kicking duties while Kaeding was injured with a groin pull. Novak has also not played since 2008, so his rating will need to be updated and will drop during camp while Kaeding recovers. I mentioned the FA part in a previous post.

[King Gro23]

Okay I see the players are rating but when clicking on them & it shows all the attributes there are no numbers . Does this process have to hold out till you recieve the game. & If so will we be able to insert the numbers into our Madden 11' games. Before the actual NFL season 10-11 is over?

[DCEBB2001]

Quote: Originally Posted by King Gro23

Okay I see the players are rating but when clicking on them & it shows all the attributes there are no numbers . Does this process have to hold out till you recieve the game. & If so will we be able to insert the numbers into our Madden 11' games. Before the actual NFL season 10-11 is over?

Tough questions here. As of now, all of the Madden attributes are cleared. The most recent data I have was from 2007 in the OLDgen. That being said, I have to see how the new locomotion will play into the ratings. As discussed in the "Inflation" thread, the averages for SPD, ACC, and AGI have gone up again, which throws off the normalization. Also, we are not entirely sure on what ratings will effect which positions. I am counting on someone with the game to calculate each and every attribute for every position to determine the weight of each attribute that determines the OVR rating. This will allow me to get the attributes up more quickly because it will not require me to get the game, which as of now, I will be passing on. Having the calculations will also make it easier to simply input the formulas into the SQL database so the calculations can be real-time, quick, and easy. If this is done, you can expect attributes to be entered in during the season. If not, it will deeply hinder my ability to enter in all the data by hand, which takes about 5 minutes per player. 17000 players, 5 minutes per...you do the math. With a simple formula for each position, that time is cut down to a few weeks of entry and a few minutes of processing. BINGO...it's done.

HittinAgenda has been doing some prelim work thus far, but we really need to wait for the game to get some of the kinks out. Once that is done, I need PRECISE weighting for the attributes. The attributes MUST match the OVR ratings. Once I get them, you will be able to enter them in before the season ends...but the PRECISE calculations are the key.

[King Gro23]

Okay thanks for the quick reply and thorough answer man.
Do you think NCAA football will have the same weighted attributes as Madden minus the QB position? because madden has the SAC, MAC, DAC. NCAA does not

[DCEBB2001]

Quote: Originally Posted by King Gro23

Okay thanks for the quick reply and thorough answer man. Do you think NCAA football will have the same weighted attributes as Madden minus the QB position? because madden has the SAC, MAC, DAC. NCAA does not

I honestly have NO idea. All I can say is that once I get the weighting and the calculations figured out, the attributes will be completed much more quickly.

[DCEBB2001]

Another update here:

All players with the "T" status have been updated for their "Training Camp" ratings. So far AZ-CLE and GB have been completed. These ratings are current as of 7/21/2010. The ratings with the "O" or "Offseason" ratings were current as of March, so much has changed for some players. Many of the injuries have been removed and players are now up to full strength except for a few who are still injured (Steve Smith, CAR).

All of the teams should be completed by the weekend, just in time for training camps. The next set of updates to follow will be during the preseason, so be on the look out for those. Also, once M11 comes out and the attributes can be calculated you will see individual attributes being added to the player ratings for current NFL players. Free Agents will also be updated periodically considering there are 14000 of them. Feel free to post any questions or send me a PM.

Dan B.