Madden NFL 11 Video: Don't Kick It To Reggie Bush (OS @ E3)

[ForeverYoung]

I really hope that this was played on rookie level and that the D plays better in higher difficulty levels.
But I fear that the horrible gliding can't be fixed by sliders.

[R9NALD9]

Quote: Originally Posted by budsticky

The main feature this year is a glorified "Ask Madden." I'll probably get slammed for trolling..but that's what it seems like to me. Every video I've seen so far still has suction blocking..I just don't know where to start. By the way, I'm not trolling..I'm just giving my opinion...check my record on OS. I'm just really feeling disgusted about Madden from everything I've seen and heard so far. It needs to be torn down and built up. It will never work as long as you all are just patching it and building on the same thing. If it takes two years that's ok. The only problem is that the powers that be at EA will NEVER let it take two years.

Come to think of it, you are right! I never thought of it in that way...
mmmmmmm...EAAAA!!

I must say though, if this gameflow thing is implemented intelligently and correctly it can be a great addition. That being said, I'm a bit sceptical, I feel it's just going to be another addition to Madden where the AI will not be able to really assist you. I fear it will end up holding you back, instead of pushing you forward...if you know what I mean

I just can't understand it...Fifa was absolutely crap 4 years back and waaaay behind Pro Evolution Soccer. In 3 years time up untill the versions end of last year, Fifa did not only caught up, but are now miles ahead of pes and the recent fifa games are mint! Just to use an example, the locomotion in fifa is the best out there, the jostling system in Fifa are being implemented in NBA Elite 11.

All that in 4 years...now my question is why can't we expect the same improvements in Madden?

In the past 5 years up untill this years version Fifa added and implemented the following:

• Locomotion system
• Complete recode of Manager Mode
• Complete new animation system
• this year in Fifa 11 the lighting is redone
• All major players faces are redone for this year
• New presentation
• Awesome jostling system where players interact and react realisticly to eachother physically
• This year will see different dribbling styles, 11 different player models

And these are just quickly off the top of my head, I don't want to know how long this list will get if I really do research about it

In the last 5 years Madden did the following:

• Better graphics
• Locomotion in this year
• Lighting redone this year
• Presentation redone the last two years

The rest, players weapons, fight for the fumble, kicking meter, gameflow are all gimmicks, smokescreens to convince us to buy the game

and just to add to Madden's woes...the Madden team has 32 teams to keep up to date, and probably about 34 stadiums or so. Fifa has over 50 stadiums and I don't even know how many teams.

[rooney8]

Quote: Originally Posted by R9NALD9

I must say though, if this gameflow thing is implemented intelligently and correctly it can be a great addition. That being said, I'm a bit sceptical, I feel it's just going to be another addition to Madden where the AI will not be able to really assist you. I fear it will end up holding you back, instead of pushing you forward...if you know what I mean

Agreed. I think it could be a great addition but this year I know I will be wondering if my coordinators have suffered brain damage with some the calls they make.

[shttymcgee]

Quote: Originally Posted by Jkgrindz

It seemed like he got up the whole field in just 10 strides (exaggeration). Seriously though his legs don't seem to be moving as fast as he's running. It's like they don't take enough strides.

What? He was taking 2 strides for every 5 yards when in the open field. How many do you think should be taken?

[DaveDQ]

Quote: Originally Posted by Jkgrindz

It seemed like he got up the whole field in just 10 strides (exaggeration). Seriously though his legs don't seem to be moving as fast as he's running. It's like they don't take enough strides.

Quote: Originally Posted by spankdatazz22

I don't get the whole "locomotion looks good" when players don't look like they're even touching the turf. The need to plant when moving left/right was needed, but come on - that should be an expected improvement. The skating is really noticeable. And the tackling/player interaction is simply poor.

Something I'm noticing that does not help this issue is the camera movement. If you notice the shifting camera during this video, it really exaggerates the sliding feel. I'm not saying sliding isn't there, but the camera does not help.

I agree with the locomotion gaps. It seems speed does not decrease after a juke is made. Locomotion looks good before speed is obtained, but once a runner is in full stride, it appears that the player's feet and ground aren't working together.

[RaiderKtulu]

Quote: Originally Posted by shttymcgee

What? He was taking 2 strides for every 5 yards when in the open field. How many do you think should be taken?

2 strides for 5 yards... Can you move 15 feet in 2 steps?

The running almost looks like it's worse than last year.... almost Sega Genesis style, just gliding along the surface.

If a certain other game gets patched, I see almost no reason to bother buying Madden this year.

[djordan]

Quote: Originally Posted by maddenps2

I really doubt it, when you run into a teammate in madden you don't fall down. Teammates are protected by invisible force-fields. The current Madden engine has *friendly fire* implemented, where is your collision with a teammate doesn't trigger a motion capture/collision animations like it would if you impacted an opponent. In regards to teammate to teammate collisions, madden is totally unrealistic, and it mimics what you see in first person shooters with friendly fire on. In case you don't know it disables you from being able to harm or shoot your teammate.

Great example dude!

[jf28]

Quote: Originally Posted by budsticky

The main feature this year is a glorified "Ask Madden." I'll probably get slammed for trolling..but that's what it seems like to me. Every video I've seen so far still has suction blocking..I just don't know where to start. By the way, I'm not trolling..I'm just giving my opinion...check my record on OS. I'm just really feeling disgusted about Madden from everything I've seen and heard so far. It needs to be torn down and built up. It will never work as long as you all are just patching it and building on the same thing. If it takes two years that's ok. The only problem is that the powers that be at EA will NEVER let it take two years.

Seriously. I'm waiting to see a screen where, in the bottom where it gives you advice, it says "Tell your line to protect here. Tell your line to protect every play, not just here."