Madden NFL 11 Video: E3 Trailer

[N@X_WiZaRD]

Quote: Originally Posted by judasfavres

IMO this was worthless. No gameplay footage. A lot of people are addicted to half time shows and post game shows but theyre the real reason Madden has been failing recently. Madden should really just work on their gameplay issues and spend more money fixing those crucial issues rather than the extras as of right now. Its like a present. The only thing that matters is whats inside like the gameplay and the less important things are like the wrappings.

LoL, Madden is focusing on half-time shows and post-game shows? I wish. A cursory look at Madden 10's extra-point show will make it indelibly clear that they spend very little (productive) time on anything presentation-related. How do I know this? Because after 5 years, they STILL don't have a play-by-play review show! All Madden 10 has is a 2-3 minute replay of random plays with no commentary whatsoever. And the rest of the half-time show is basically replete with shallow "Here is how the game is going" without actually describing the actual elements of the statistics, lol. It's embarrassingly bad.

So while I agree that Madden certainly needs to improve their gameplay. I definitely don't agree that they've somehow sacrificed their valuable time on presentation. Because they haven't.

Anyway, about the trailer, I can't help but have a gag-reflex. Because I know EA can make amazing trailers with amazing presentation. They've done it before. And I'd even argue that they've done much better in the past:



Just listen to the trailer (although this is technically the Madden 06 intro). It really pumps you up. Even better than this Madden 11 trailer. But what did we get? Madden 06.

So yea, forgive me if I'm a bit jaded.

[pepp32]

You guys need to chill. If if the locomotion and run blocking in Madden 11 plays as well as it does in the NCAA 11 Demo, this game is going to be epic. Also a little food for thought....that intro with the bus ride and the locker room shot is part of the presentation package this year. You guys should be excited.....we been asking for this type of immursion for years.

[Exonerated]

Just played the NCAA demo. Locomotion is good. Love the user-catching in that game. Hope Madden has similar user catching.

And the intro is actually in Madden.

[Landlordos7]

Am I seriously the only one who realized that this trailer is actual in-game footage of cutscenes, pre-games, huddles, etc. just from a customized camera view that is meant to add theatricality? I think other people get that but I'm not sure, but if you don't, this is not something pre-rendered, it's real, it's just still entirely different than you will see when you actually play the game.

[RedZoneD25]

Quote: Originally Posted by Landlordos7

Am I seriously the only one who realized that this trailer is actual in-game footage of cutscenes, pre-games, huddles, etc. just from a customized camera view that is meant to add theatricality? I think other people get that but I'm not sure, but if you don't, this is not something pre-rendered, it's real, it's just still entirely different than you will see when you actually play the game.

How nice of EA to create a customizable camera for hype train sales, but not for the people who end up buying the game. Not ragging on them, but I do think all the extra work into basically lying to your customers could be spent making the real game look like that trailer. If I get an infraction, that's fine. I'm still going to buy M11 (I need my updated rosters, I'm a junkie) and I LOVE how the NCAA demo plays so if Madden 11's gameplay can feel as live and raw as NCAA I'm all smiles....except for the lack of 'chise updates.

[Segagendude]

Quote: Originally Posted by N@X_WiZaRD

LoL, Madden is focusing on half-time shows and post-game shows? I wish. A cursory look at Madden 10's extra-point show will make it indelibly clear that they spend very little (productive) time on anything presentation-related. How do I know this? Because after 5 years, they STILL don't have a play-by-play review show! All Madden 10 has is a 2-3 minute replay of random plays with no commentary whatsoever. And the rest of the half-time show is basically replete with shallow "Here is how the game is going" without actually describing the actual elements of the statistics, lol. It's embarrassingly bad. So while I agree that Madden certainly needs to improve their gameplay. I definitely don't agree that they've somehow sacrificed their valuable time on presentation. Because they haven't. Anyway, about the trailer, I can't help but have a gag-reflex. Because I know EA can make amazing trailers with amazing presentation. They've done it before. And I'd even argue that they've done much better in the past: Just listen to the trailer (although this is technically the Madden 06 intro). It really pumps you up. Even better than this Madden 11 trailer. But what did we get? Madden 06. So yea, forgive me if I'm a bit jaded.

Holy ****!!! That brings back memories......that's what made me buy a PS3......then I actually bought that game, and it was like "Whaaa!!?"

[N@X_WiZaRD]

Quote: Originally Posted by Landlordos7

Am I seriously the only one who realized that this trailer is actual in-game footage of cutscenes, pre-games, huddles, etc. just from a customized camera view that is meant to add theatricality? I think other people get that but I'm not sure, but if you don't, this is not something pre-rendered, it's real, it's just still entirely different than you will see when you actually play the game.

You are correct. Some of this trailer is certainly in-game.

The locker scenes are ... in the game.
The Drew Brees pep-rally scene is ... in the game (coupled with 3-4 generic pep-rally scenes for every other team I'm sure)

But that's about it. The rest of the trailer (including the first person camera view before the snap) is purely from EA's marketing crew.

Don't get me wrong, the graphics are excellent (this was never my problem). But don't let the glitz and glamor of this trailer fool you into thinking that this is somehow the beginning of a revolutionary new perspective on presentation. Madden already has these kind of intros in their previous games. Madden 08 tore the scene up with their up-beat intro (which I liked): And Madden 07 also had a really authentic introduction:



If this Madden 11 trailer shows anything, it's just that EA has slightly expanded their already robust stadium introduction scenes. Which is great, but I don't know if it's anything to be radically pumped up for.

[RedZoneD25]

Daaaaanngg. I miss that Madden 0-Seven (the number key is broken on my laptop) intro.