NBA Elite 11 Video: Vision Developer Diary

[Behindshadows]

I noticed after watching for the 10th time or so...That the footplanting is better, along with the movement of the feet on the defensive end of it.

Great movement overall and no sliding.

[Da_Czar]

Gentlemen did anyone else notice the bad blend into the euro ? I hear all the its early talk but the game will be finished in 2 2.5 months right ? Looking at that euro has me thinking we shouldn't get too carried away with the "real rime physics" until we can get a good look at it over TIME.

IF the system is just choosing the right animation in real time as opposed to capturing the whole drive that may not be that different from the competition.

The key between them may not be real time vesus animation based but actually turn out to be whose implementation of their current technology is more like real basketball.

So I wouldn't just assume that since they say its real time that makes it better. It may be better than anything we saw LAST YEAR.

One game may start to look more fluid and real and one may have air tight controls but not look realistic because the cpu is blending animations regardless of whether a real person could do them or not.

Please watch that euro again. A human would not be able to shoot that shot like that with momentum and off that leg BUT it did blend smoothly.

also the spin off of the defense was nice but what about the fact that he took off with left hand dribbling to his right. Then his spin off the defense was again tremendous control but notice zero reaction from the d when the spin occured. If we spin body to body your going to react because that is what makes the spin effective is your body bouncing off mine creating space not just allowing me to immediatly blend into another move.

Again just looking at the video for what its worth yes its early but at the same time the game will be done mid late august. its not like they have 6 months to add stuff.

To our community day guys were you able to see any 5 v 5 and play 5 v 5 or was it all one on one ? I know you may not be able to comment on that but at least say if you played 5 on 5 if you can.

Oh yeah loved the fact that the offensive player moved like he had weight and that hesitation spin move really highlighted the fact that you can do what you want when you want. loved seeing that !!!

[Pared]

Czar,

Why was it when you had the game last year with all the loss of control during the two-player animations and all the issues Live had last year... it wasn't a problem when you viewed the game early... but this stuff is?

The game is still early with the new tech. being implemented. It's not all roses but to dissect video like that... we always talk about how guys do that to 2k's game year in and year out... yet here we are, doing it on the other side of the fence.

Just take the video as a work in progress... that's exactly what it is. C'mon... when 2k dropped their demo last year it was a terrible reflection of what the final game was like. These are moving targets and you can't have a stationary bullseye.

[Pared]

And as for not being able to finish like that in real life?

[Da_Czar]

Quote: Originally Posted by Pared

Czar, Why was it when you had the game last year with all the loss of control during the two-player animations and all the issues Live had last year... it wasn't a problem when you viewed the game early... but this stuff is? The game is still early with the new tech. being implemented. It's not all roses but to dissect video like that... we always talk about how guys do that to 2k's game year in and year out... yet here we are, doing it on the other side of the fence. Just take the video as a work in progress... that's exactly what it is. C'mon... when 2k dropped their demo last year it was a terrible reflection of what the final game was like. These are moving targets and you can't have a stationary bullseye.

That is really interesting. So since you have the benefit of seeing a whole new game a year after I did you can look back retroactively and make snide comments about what I did or did not see in live 10.

Very interesting. Not taking into account that my vision of live 10 was in comparison to live 09 and 2k9. Hinsight is indeed 20/20

I find that to be a completely misguided evaluation of what I saw and an attempt to shut me up as it were. I think if we look at anyones comparisons of a game last year yours included we can certainly poke out holes with the benefit of 12 months of vision.

Its obvious you are invested in this years live game no problem but does that mean we can't look at what they decided to show us and comment on it ?

I took zero cheap shots. We are known for analyzing video.
and honestly what does anything you posted have to do with the blend in the euro ?

Bretheren I ask you was that a cheap shot to say the euro had a bad blend.

The producer said its the what most realistic ever ?

They said real time physics so we should just act like we didn't see that ?

[Da_Czar]

Quote: Originally Posted by Pared

And as for not being able to finish like that in real life?

Come on Pared in the ea video he jumped off his right leg at an angle that a human would NOT do with the momentum he had. Am I the only one who noticed that ? Look you believe in the direction of elite 11 that is cool. You got to see the game I got that. THat gives you no right to try and shut down opinions that differ from yours. You are not the arbitrator of what can and can't be said or discussed on OS. I mean that with no ill will and no disrespect.



that was an obvious blend into that particular animation.

[ehh]

I don't see any issue with the eurostep, especially since Jennings is one of the quicker players in the league.

[rockchisler]

EZ gentlemen EZ Hopefully the developers are looking and implement the blend a lil better