Madden NFL 11 Introduces Online Scouting

[Valdarez]

Quote: Originally Posted by CreatineKasey

I hope they don't charge for roster updates or something that was a given in years past. Extra content like scouting = good. Charging for standard content = bad.

I'm sure at some point it's going to cost 'coins' to get a Roster Update.

[Critical Kills]

tlc - I am not biased, I have been critical of EA in this very thread about why they don't allow you access to the report before you get into a game with someone. With that being said I've already explained why I agree with having to 'earn' the report. It's to encourage people to finish games. People quitting when they get behind is probably the single biggest complaint about online play. Anything EA can think of to encourage folks to quit doing that is a great step forward for online play IMO..

[Critical Kills]

Valdarez - I don't see that happening as a lot of offline players use roster updates and don't play online and EA knows this.

[splff3000]

Quote: Originally Posted by ODogg

tlc - I am not biased, I have been critical of EA in this very thread about why they don't allow you access to the report before you get into a game with someone. With that being said I've already explained why I agree with having to 'earn' the report. It's to encourage people to finish games. People quitting when they get behind is probably the single biggest complaint about online play. Anything EA can think of to encourage folks to quit doing that is a great step forward for online play IMO..

They can concede defeat if they wanna quit. Personally, I feel if EA wants to cut down on people quitting, allow people to concede defeat at anytime. I remember one time me and one of my boys were playing online and I had a 3 point lead in the 3rd qtr. Well, he had to go for some reason and wanted to just give me the win, but he couldn't because "concede defeat" was not available yet. So he had to just quit.

I don't think "scouting coins" will keep people playing any longer than normal. Also what about how wonky EA's servers are? I know every year, I have at least a quarter of my losses come from disconnects caused by EA's servers. If EA hasn't revamped their servers, there will be a lot of pissed off online gamers this year.

[Critical Kills]

I 100% agree with you that people should be able to concede at any time. I've complained about this for years to anyone that will listen. I was in a game last week in NCAA when I had too many beers, I was OSU and playing Florida (who of course I hate) and the guy got up 14-0, then hit Pryor and he fumbled and he ran it back and made it 21-0 to start the 2nd. The fact that I knew the game was over and it was getting late, made me think "I'll go ahead and concede and take the loss" but as you said, when I went to the menu there was no option there. So I ended up quitting the game and taking the DNF. It's silly why they won't give you that option any time.

I know the reason they don't is they think it'll encourage folks to quit more if they can quit anytime but it's not going to really make a difference in my opinion. I know most people don't want to play against the CPU but when someone concedes they should just be able to automatically take the win if they desire and finish the game.

However, with all of this being said, I think it's good to reward people who do finish. And giving them coins is a good way of doing that. If you're in a game that's 63-0 or a game like you describe above, or like I described, then it won't make any difference at all, but if I'm in a game where I'm only down 28-7 in a normal situation in the third and I may be tempted to concede, the fact that if I just play one more quarter and stick it out and get those coins may influence me too. And who knows, in doing so maybe some strange things will happen and I'll come back in the game.

But if not at least I get rewarded at the end for sticking around and playing. As it is now there is absolutely zero reason, other than your record of DNF, to avoid pulling the plug and that has got to change. This is a good start.

[theD25]

This is a great feature to make sure the cheesers cant keep playing the same way all game. I know i have situational plays and this feature will be a great way to stop it/slow it down

[splff3000]

Quote: Originally Posted by ODogg

I 100% agree with you that people should be able to concede at any time. I've complained about this for years to anyone that will listen. I was in a game last week in NCAA when I had too many beers, I was OSU and playing Florida (who of course I hate) and the guy got up 14-0, then hit Pryor and he fumbled and he ran it back and made it 21-0 to start the 2nd. The fact that I knew the game was over and it was getting late, made me think "I'll go ahead and concede and take the loss" but as you said, when I went to the menu there was no option there. So I ended up quitting the game and taking the DNF. It's silly why they won't give you that option any time. I know the reason they don't is they think it'll encourage folks to quit more if they can quit anytime but it's not going to really make a difference in my opinion. I know most people don't want to play against the CPU but when someone concedes they should just be able to automatically take the win if they desire and finish the game. However, with all of this being said, I think it's good to reward people who do finish. And giving them coins is a good way of doing that. If you're in a game that's 63-0 or a game like you describe above, or like I described, then it won't make any difference at all, but if I'm in a game where I'm only down 28-7 in a normal situation in the third and I may be tempted to concede, the fact that if I just play one more quarter and stick it out and get those coins may influence me too. And who knows, in doing so maybe some strange things will happen and I'll come back in the game. But if not at least I get rewarded at the end for sticking around and playing. As it is now there is absolutely zero reason, other than your record of DNF, to avoid pulling the plug and that has got to change. This is a good start.

Ok, I see what you're saying. I don't agree that it'll work like that for most, but I can respect the fact that it'll work like that for you.

On a somewhat different note, what are you going to do when the servers disconnect you this year lol? In previous years, if you play late into the 3rd qtr or hell, late into the 4th qtr sometimes and the server disconnects you, you just got a loss, a DNF, and lost time(in your life) that you spent playing. Now you won't get your coins either lol. What are you gonna do then? Now that I think about it, if you want to stay ahead on your coins, you're going to have to finish those blowout games because I'm 100% sure there will be some server side disconnects. If you started scouting in the game, you'll lose those too. You lost the coins that you spent scouting in-game and you lose the coins that you would have got if you finished the game. That's a double whammy!!

[AsG1989]

sounds cool