NBA Live Being Renamed NBA Elite, Scan Posted (Pasta Padre)

[noshun]

Quote: Originally Posted by SageInfinite

Thats what I was thinking. Not a knock on BS but, I dont get how he calls himself an unbiased gamer, and sees nothing wrong with Live.

Live was broken for 4 years, albeit Live 10 was somewhat playable this year. There are some people that keep making excuses for it too, and he's one of them. They're attempting to reinvent a series that wasted 4 years of ineptitude in trying to fix the franchise, only to bow out and rebrand it Elite, like thats gonna save it. This game is far from anything Elite.

I wonder if they will abandon this game when it comes out to paltry sales, like they did NCAA Basketball 10?

[Behindshadows]

Quote: Originally Posted by noshun

Thats what I was thinking. Not a knock on BS but, I dont get how he calls himself an unbiased gamer, and sees nothing wrong with Live.

Let me correct you for a second....

I love how everyone wants to use the unbiased statement, without even knowing the definition of the word.

1st off, I buy both every year - Part 1 to being unbiased
2nd off, I play them both for their differences and don't try to compare what the other doesn't have - Part 2 to being unbiased.
3rd - I respect the art / graphics differences, presentation differences, game mode differences. Without it ruining my experiences. - Part 3 to being unbiased.

(Also a key to being unbiased is knowing when to throw out some negatives, as well as positives) Which brings me to my next statement and response to your nothing is wrong with Live 10 statement.

I enjoy Live 10, I love the graphics, the controls, the overall gaming experience I get on default settings.

Do I think the animations suck, no! Do I wish they had more yes....unbiased. I acknowledge what isn't there, but don't overlook the fact that more are needed during certain shots and contacts.

Do I hate the presentation, no! Does it need to be better, yes! As I've posted numerous times in threads on how Steve Kerr gets on my nerve and the commentary has been rinsed and repeated since Live 05. Does it ruin my experience, No!!! Still love the game.

Notice how I'm talking about Live 10 and only Live 10. See being unbiased is when you can discuss a title, without comparison.

Let's go to 2k10. Do I hate it, no! Do I dislike it, yes! Does it stop me from playing it, no! Because again things I love about it, that they do differently that keeps me interested in play it, as well!

Is online poorly done, yes! Does it ruin my experience, no! It's hit and miss on certain nights.

Do I love the graphics, no! Do I hate them, no! I just know that Visual Concepts artist are capable of more, PC modders prove that the engine is capable of more with time.

I love the presentation, best they've done in the series in a long time. I love the D-Leagues, amazing feature this season. NBA Today is great! So what is it, that I hate about it.

Well animations, sometimes they over do, the animations to where the computer pretty much controls my movements instead of me. Not to mention, players are starting to skate now, too much time has to go into sliders and rating changes to make it play good and not feel cheated against the CPU. Ridiculous shots and dunks in traffic and on contacts, etc.

Same create a player since NBA 2k6 ported. I mean see how I only compare it to what they've done as a company.

Same way I compare Live to how it's changed since Live 06, and 10 was a major improvement, done by a new development group in 10 months. So I respect the work and time it has done.

Was DNA broken, somewhat! Did or does it ruin my experience, No! Is Dynasty Mode bad, No! Could they do more, YES, of course! Is what not there ruining my gaming experiences, no! On the court I like the game.

Dynamic Season is crack! And it is a key element that keeps me intrigued about the game. So don't try to call me out, like using that term, makes you think you know me as a gamer.

Learn to separate the differences and enjoy all games for what they bring to the table, instead of always trying to compare apples and oranges and thinking one of them can compare to the other. They are different for a reason, and a reason why people buy both. For 2 different experiences. Yeah Live 10 has issues, but it doesn't ruin basketball for me or my playing time with it. Yes the competition has it's own issues and bugs, about 10 pages of bugs, but only a few things really bothered me, but didn't ruin my basketball experiences.

And you didn't see me in the 2k threads ranting on about how it sucks and how Live 10 does this either did you. Because I as an unbiased gamer have nothing to prove with that garage. I enjoy them for what they are both worth, with their flaws.

- Peace.

[noshun]

Quote: Originally Posted by Behindshadows

Learn to separate the differences and enjoy all games for what they bring to the table.

Let me correct you for a second.

Why are you even mentioning comparing both NBA games? Im only talking about Live and Live only, so half your post is moot, as you keep bringing up the other basketball game. Why?

You feel Live has caught up. If that's the case, why is EA rebranding this game as Elite? Why is this the 6th time they are starting over on nextgen?

DNA has relegated playing defense moot, rebounds still hit the floor(just like in Live 07) but not as regularly. The cpu is in godmode when they have the ball. It's unreal. While there are good things in this game, the basics of basketball are bad if not deplorable. And they take away from the game bigtime.

Let me guess, it doesnt happen in your version of the game.

Not to hijack this thread, so moving on.. I have no hope for Live(neither did EA) hence rebranding it Elite, and will remain skeptical.. I will still check things out as I love the NBA regardless

[Pared]

I'm just glad EA doesn't feel the same way BS does. We would get nowhere.

They know the work that is necessary for this franchise. Like I've told others, I'm going to just wait and see.

[Pared]

Quote: Originally Posted by ehh

The blurb under the sequence of photos mid-left caught my eye. They shouldn't even let bigs like Shaq have those moves as an option. If you try it with Shaq, nothing happens. Put in dribble/move packages like 2K.

But the reality is these players CAN do these moves, just not very well.

As long as there is a consequence, it works. If Bynum does one, slow, awkward crossover, maybe he can get away with it. Try to cross back immediately... Turnover.

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If Bynum is still attempting crossovers in the new game there is a major problem.

I turned his dribble rating down to 0 in Live 10 and he still had moments where he attempted crossovers and stepbacks, just not as much as without and edited roster.

It shouldnt even be programmed for him to do stuff like that.

[Shakedowncapo]

Quote: Originally Posted by Pared

They know the work that is necessary for this franchise.

Could have fooled me.

[RayAllen20]

Wow I just realized that this whole NBA Elite thing is very very smart by EA. Think about it; NBA Live 09 outsold NBA Live 10 despite being much worse. Most people who saw NBA Live 10 said screw it, they've already given me terrible games. Then went and picked up 2k since lately they've given out some good games.

Now if EA makes NBA Elite 11 with a brand new cover template, then those people will think it's a brand new game, and people who weren't so fond of 2k10 would love to try a new basketball game. Even if they don't know much about it.