Backbreaker Demo Available, Post Your Impressions Here

[Nintari]

Quote: Originally Posted by fldash

* Expect the game to feel mediocre at first (at least I did), but after doing all the practice sessions once, playing tackle alley 4 times, and playing 10 exhibition matches it's now a first day buy. The more you play it, the more you like it. Thanks for reading...

Same with me. When I first tried it, the camera killed it for me. But now, after many more play throughs I like it. Still think there should be options though, but oh well.

The ONE thing that needs fixed though is roughing the kicker. It's completely broken.

[Sigma4Life]

Quote: Originally Posted by fldash

PS3 User Expectations: Okay, so, being a PS3 user myself, and being really upset the demo did not hit yesterday, I did the unthinkable... what someone with too much money, and too much love for a hobby would do. I went and got a 360. After the grueling process of trying to figure out how to even work the 360 menus, I got signed up for Live and the Backbreaker demo downloaded... I just want to list out a few things that I haven't really seen mentioned a lot, but first, it's worth mentioning that I had a terrible time adjusting to the XBOX 360 controller, I kept moving my hand to the D-PAD because it's not the same spot as the PS3. And I kept thinking about how awful the controller layout felt because it wasn't symmetrical like the 360. But I digress. I'm not going to cover Euphoria really, because we know it's great... * First, temper your expectations. If you are like me, you have watched every Youtube video on Backbreaker since Friday morning... probably in the realm of 100+ of them, you may think you have a good grasp on how to play the game. Especially since some of the more recent ones are making the game look fairly easy, don't think it's really easy to pickup and play immediately. You'll need to practice. * Layoff the triggers! Focus is good, as is aggressive, but each have their place. Using Focus in a crowd often causes the camera to whack out and you'll lose control over your player since his direction is controlled by screen orientation, not which way he's facing. If the camera is moving a lot, you'll be running around like a chicken without a head. For example, if you are running straight ahead, and move the camera to the left (but are still pushing up on the stick) your player will begin to veer right, if the camera moves faster he'll veer/turn. * Running outside takes some sort of gift from God and coordination (aka practice). You'll find yourself often running backwards right after the handoff and most likely getting pounded for a 10 yard loss. This is a mixture between not having awareness from the camera/player movement orientation and holding down aggressive mode. I don't use aggressive mode unless it's an inside run or a break free on the outside. I'll sparingly use agile mode as necessary to give myself a better view of the field. * Get rid of the ball quickly, don't stand still in the pocket. There will almost always be a rush. You have about 3-5 seconds to get rid of the ball and you should count in "mississippi's" to know how much time you have. Also, don't stand still until you are ready to throw. However, throwing on the move lowers accuracy regardless of it focus mode is held. I never entered aggressive mode as the QB and I still could scramble around quite well. * Expect interceptions. You will throw a lot of them. You will also throw lots of incompletions. I think incompletions may have something to do with the lead passing aspect so make sure you 'get off the right stick' as soon as you pass it. * The amount of plays is disappointing. Yes, even on Pro/Hard. There may be more in the official, but don't expect it. That said, there is still enough to effectively run an offense and defense. * Don't expect euphoria highlights every game. Despite the videos you've seen, there are regular moment in the game that look like everyday football hits. Not everything is a highlight reel hit or play. * Defense is incredibly rewarding. I advise you to stick with one player throughout the game, use right stick to get a camera angle you want... Only use focus if you lose the ball. Otherwise the constantly shifting camera can make it hard to control your player. Only use aggressive when you have the ball carrier in site and can 'bear' down on him. * Don't worry about using the right stick to do fancy tackles at first, you're player will automatically attempt to tackle when you get close. * Expect the game to feel mediocre at first (at least I did), but after doing all the practice sessions once, playing tackle alley 4 times, and playing 10 exhibition matches it's now a first day buy. The more you play it, the more you like it. Thanks for reading...

Excellent post! How are you feeling about the xbox controller now that you've had some more practice with it?

[fldash]

Quote: Originally Posted by Sigma4Life

Excellent post! How are you feeling about the xbox controller now that you've had some more practice with it?

I still hate it and think I'll be much better once I'm back on my PS3 controller...

[o Mass Murda o]

Quote: Originally Posted by TheWatcher

I've noticed a few rules issues. Here is one I've had several times... I make an INT, the offense never touches me, a player on my own team hits me by accident, I fall down, the play is called dead.

yep had this happen as well. also had a pass called complete with only one foot coming down. i dont know if the full game has challenges and if these are intentional screw ups without the option being in the demo to challenge or this is their way of mimicking real life bad calls. i also had one play where my WR on a streak got bumped so hard he flew off his feet around 12-15yds upfield before i threw the ball to him and there was no pass interference called on the cb.

[drae2]

Okay, so who's gonna start the Who Has It thread?

[allBthere]

Quote: Originally Posted by fldash

I still hate it and think I'll be much better once I'm back on my PS3 controller...

I'm the exact opposite. It's amazing how subtle (well not so sublte to us) could be the determining factor in buying a console.

So hear I am with RDR and UFC and I'm trying to forget about the demo. Very hard not to boot it up, trying to wait until next week and just play the crap out of the real game.

[swaldo]

Quote: Originally Posted by fldash

Expect the game to feel mediocre at first (at least I did), but after doing all the practice sessions once, playing tackle alley 4 times, and playing 10 exhibition matches it's now a first day buy. The more you play it, the more you like it.

Nice breakdown and props on the shiny new XBOX (I actually love their controller but I have big hands so maybe that's why.)

Apex actually mentioned that in one of his recent videos - how with other football games you think it's the best thing ever on day one, but then you see all of it's flaws and it turns into a coaster. It's the opposite with BB, the flaws are right there in front of you and unfortunately alot of people will just put it down and not give it a second chance.

This game really grows on you, it does for me anyway. It gets better the more you learn how to do things, and even if the AI is messed up in ways the tackling and "on the field" experience is revolutionary. I didn't expect something like this to come along until PS4, I just hope that NM forgets the bells & whistles and focuses on improving the AI. Lay the foundation first then build it up.

[sb24]

Quote: Originally Posted by fldash

I still hate it and think I'll be much better once I'm back on my PS3 controller...

I found your comment about how awful the 360 layout is pretty funny because I remebered this thread a while back. http://osatwork.com/forums/showthread.php?t=413027