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Old 05-21-2010, 02:27 AM   #41
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i swear these devs are programmed to answer questions by NOT answering questions. a one word answer in that case would have been all we needed...

bingo... IMO it really speaks to their perceived intelligence of their consumer base... all that extra crap they put in there really makes it seem like they've been "coached up" to make sure they don't say anything...

wasn't it jerry maguire... the art of talking without actually saying anything... something like that
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Old 05-21-2010, 04:13 AM   #42
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1. The Dev never actually said the videos are on All Pro, he gave a terrible generic answer so that he wouldn't admit that they were actually on Rookie.

2. We should not be able to shift the OLine on run plays, I'm glad they fixed this. The OLine should know who to block based off the D's alignment.
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Old 05-21-2010, 04:34 AM   #43
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Wait a minute, we're trolling now? Maybe you guys need to look at the vids again. Those guys aren't dropping back into zone coverage. They aren't doing anything. They're just standing there waiting to get blocked. Even after the running back has clearly passed the line of scrimmage, the defenders still just stand there.

To the ones saying it's because it's zone defense, are you serious? So we can't pick zone defense against the run now. I know it's not the best D against the run, but defenses do stop the run when in zone defense sometimes. Do you think great defensive teams like the Ravens are just good at guessing whether a team runs or not? That's what you all are suggesting. According to Madden if you pick a zone defense against the run, you're guys are gonna just stand there and get blocked. Get real!!

First, everyone was hollering that it was on rookie to show run blocking improvements. Then, after the guy who wrote the blog says it was on All pro, you still say it was on rookie. WTF? I think I believe the guy who did the blog over Ian. Nothing against Ian, I'm just saying that if the guy who did the blog says it was on all pro, it probably was on all pro. Now he may have tweaked some sliders or something like that, but I'm not gonna sit here, when he says he was playing on all pro, and then say well Ian says it's rookie lol.

Face it, the vid was bad, real bad for run defense. I don't care what anyone says. I trust my eyes over people's voices any day. My eyes saw that the defenders were just standing there waiting to get blocked. You can say whatever you want, but I'm willing to bet the majority of the people on these boards would agree with what I saw.
I wouldn't trust anyones eyes who can't clearly see that LBs drop back and THEN react to the run. Infact, it was the same defensive play EVERY TIME. If you honestly can't see this then I don't know what to tell you.
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Old 05-21-2010, 07:24 AM   #44
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Wait a minute, we're trolling now? Maybe you guys need to look at the vids again. Those guys aren't dropping back into zone coverage. They aren't doing anything. They're just standing there waiting to get blocked. Even after the running back has clearly passed the line of scrimmage, the defenders still just stand there.

To the ones saying it's because it's zone defense, are you serious? So we can't pick zone defense against the run now. I know it's not the best D against the run, but defenses do stop the run when in zone defense sometimes. Do you think great defensive teams like the Ravens are just good at guessing whether a team runs or not? That's what you all are suggesting. According to Madden if you pick a zone defense against the run, you're guys are gonna just stand there and get blocked. Get real!!

First, everyone was hollering that it was on rookie to show run blocking improvements. Then, after the guy who wrote the blog says it was on All pro, you still say it was on rookie. WTF? I think I believe the guy who did the blog over Ian. Nothing against Ian, I'm just saying that if the guy who did the blog says it was on all pro, it probably was on all pro. Now he may have tweaked some sliders or something like that, but I'm not gonna sit here, when he says he was playing on all pro, and then say well Ian says it's rookie lol.

Face it, the vid was bad, real bad for run defense. I don't care what anyone says. I trust my eyes over people's voices any day. My eyes saw that the defenders were just standing there waiting to get blocked. You can say whatever you want, but I'm willing to bet the majority of the people on these boards would agree with what I saw.
Zone defenses should be what you play to stop the run. Zone defenses have a better chance of stopping the run because underneath defenders are looking in the backfield instead of at their man. This logic that man defenses are better against the run is ludacris. I agree, that in the game, man defenses seem to do better, but that's not the way it actually works on the field.
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I had 5 questions that were that did not get answered an I thought they were important. I'm not sure the mod knew what I was talking about, maybe that's why he didn't post them for consideration, I don't know. One of them went like this.

In previous versions of Madden/NCAA I could line up in I Tight, I normal and my opponent could like up in Nickel 33 or Dollar and stuff the run in the backfield. In real like I would attack this with an isolation and pretty much abuse it at will. Additionally, players have ran all coverage defense with only one man rushing or no man rushing, on the tourney scene called F@G defense, and they have been able to bust up the run game. What has been done in the run blocking to deal with these tactics?


My other question involved the FB.

In previous madden games the FB did not do a great job of picking up 2nd level blocks. Neither did he attempt to attach/double with a lineman to kick out edge defenders. What has been done to get the FB to be aggressive and pick up 2nd level blocks? What if anything has been done to get the FB to attach to a block by a lineman and have both of them drive a defender out or off the edge?


These were very important questions that highlight huge problems and they did not receive any consideration whatsoever.
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Very good questions LB, but probably far too involved and detailed for a live chat format.
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Old 05-21-2010, 01:10 PM   #47
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I wonder if Play Recognition will keep a defender from taking that initial step vs. the counter the devs talked about, or if they recover faster
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I had 5 questions that were that did not get answered an I thought they were important. I'm not sure the mod knew what I was talking about, maybe that's why he didn't post them for consideration, I don't know. One of them went like this.

In previous versions of Madden/NCAA I could line up in I Tight, I normal and my opponent could like up in Nickel 33 or Dollar and stuff the run in the backfield. In real like I would attack this with an isolation and pretty much abuse it at will. Additionally, players have ran all coverage defense with only one man rushing or no man rushing, on the tourney scene called F@G defense, and they have been able to bust up the run game. What has been done in the run blocking to deal with these tactics?


My other question involved the FB.

In previous madden games the FB did not do a great job of picking up 2nd level blocks. Neither did he attempt to attach/double with a lineman to kick out edge defenders. What has been done to get the FB to be aggressive and pick up 2nd level blocks? What if anything has been done to get the FB to attach to a block by a lineman and have both of them drive a defender out or off the edge?


These were very important questions that highlight huge problems and they did not receive any consideration whatsoever.
Maybe if you didn't you a derogatory word they'd pick up your question. You also could've simplified the first question a lot for the purpose of answering in a quick Q & A session.
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