Madden NFL 11 Blog: Locomotion w/ Videos and L.T. Screenshot

[prettyrik]

Sounds good, but until I play the game myself in person I'm not giving Madden the benefit of the doubt anymore. I have one key question for EA developers/designers did they take out player movement control from the d-pad? If not they really need to if they want the game to feel authentic and even out the playing field for all gamers in all game situations. Reasons being because from my experiences the game does not respond the same with two different type of controls d-pad is more responsive than analog which isn't an even playing field! PLAYER MOVEMENT CONTROL NEEDS TO ONLY BE ON THE LEFT STICK SUCH AS IN ALL PRO FOOTBALL AND BACKBREAKER!!! I have to at least EA is admitting the problems that Madden 10 had which was a good game compared to its predecessors. but has ways to go to before it gets to the point where it cleans out all the bugs that hindering the games potential to be a good simulation football game meaning intending to be played like the games played in the fall on Sunday. Like I said before I'm not going to get all geeked up until I play the game for myself for a bit and new/hype has worn off. Then I will ask the question is this game really good/fun to play? That will be the determining factor for me. I honestly do hope the answer to that question is yes.

[Only1LT]

Quote: Originally Posted by Pacman83

^^Maybe its you that doesn't get it. Read my other posts to get where i'm coming from.

No it's definitely you that doesn't get it if you think that the reason that 2K doesn't make Football games is because they made bad Football games lol. That's more than laughable, that's... what's the word I'm looking for? Oh yeah! Asinine!

[Pacman83]

Quote: Originally Posted by Only1LT

No it's definitely you that doesn't get it if you think that the reason that 2K doesn't make Football games is because they made bad Football games lol. That's more than laughable, that's... what's the word I'm looking for? Oh yeah! Asinine!

Yea...learn to read, never said that.

[splff3000]

Quote: Originally Posted by Pacman83

^^Maybe its you that doesn't get it. Read my other posts to get where i'm coming from.

Pacman, it's well known that it's not really cost effective to try to make a sim style football game without the NFL license, especially in this day and age with high development costs. APF2k8 tried this and while it was a solid game of football it didn't sell too well. That is mostly due to the lack of the NFL license. You see, to make a full fledged sim football game, with full franchise and the works, without the NFL license is very risky. It takes a lot of time and money to do that and it's not guaranteed you'll see a return on your investment because of how popular the NFL is. Without that, you could put all this money, time, and effort into a game, only to have it not sell well simply due to the lack of the NFL license. I'm fairly confident that a game could come out and be 10x better than Madden and Madden would still have comparable sales simply for the fact that it has the NFL license. That's why you see games like Backbreaker trying new things like euphoria and different camera angles and like Blitz with over the top violence and stuff. They are trying something different because they know the sim crowd wants the NFL. Now I consider myself a sim football fan, and I'll give any football game a try, but the majority won't. That's the real reason there isn't a 2k football game. Most people know this. In fact, 2k execs themselves have said this.

I just wanted to point this out to you because you're posts are making you look.....what's the word..........young, I guess. I'm not trying to call you names or anything like that, but that's what you are coming off as. Some young kid who doesn't understand the concept of business. Once again, I'm not saying that's what you are, but that's what you're coming off as.

[Pacman83]

Quote: Originally Posted by splff3000

Pacman, it's well known that it's not really cost effective to try to make a sim style football game without the NFL license, especially in this day and age with high development costs. APF2k8 tried this and while it was a solid game of football it didn't sell too well. That is mostly due to the lack of the NFL license. You see, to make a full fledged sim football game, with full franchise and the works, without the NFL license is very risky. It takes a lot of time and money to do that and it's not guaranteed you'll see a return on your investment because of how popular the NFL is. Without that, you could put all this money, time, and effort into a game, only to have it not sell well simply due to the lack of the NFL license. I'm fairly confident that a game could come out and be 10x better than Madden and Madden would still have comparable sales simply for the fact that it has the NFL license. That's why you see games like Backbreaker trying new things like euphoria and different camera angles and like Blitz with over the top violence and stuff. They are trying something different because they know the sim crowd wants the NFL. Now I consider myself a sim football fan, and I'll give any football game a try, but the majority won't. That's the real reason there isn't a 2k football game. Most people know this. In fact, 2k execs themselves have said this. I just wanted to point this out to you because you're posts are making you look.....what's the word..........young, I guess. I'm not trying to call you names or anything like that, but that's what you are coming off as. Some young kid who doesn't understand the concept of business. Once again, I'm not saying that's what you are, but that's what you're coming off as.

This is the Madden forums, so gonna let it go...I guess i am young (26), maybe a bit dumb, plenty of things i dont understand (maybe because my major isnt business)...not that i care. But my point was that maybe at the time yes football isnt going to sell for 2K, however, whose to say?--I mean to me their other games have slipped, hockey, baseball, & basketball. So whose to say that there's no market for them to compete with a subpar Madden? To me BB producers have less money than 2k...so i guess i don't understand it, its sounds backwards to say its not cost effective and then you have someone making BB when obviously Madden is back to reaching its peak.

[Only1LT]

Quote: Originally Posted by NavigatorD83

Visual Concepts knows what they are doing

Quote: Originally Posted by Pacman83

If they did, they'd still be making football games.

Quote: Originally Posted by Pacman83

Yea...learn to read, never said that.

Lol. Maybe you should learn to read what you write.

[Pacman83]

Quote: Originally Posted by Only1LT

Lol. Maybe you should learn to read what you write.

wow...

Yup...got me? Read one post and all

[Only1LT]

Quote: Originally Posted by Pacman83

This is the Madden forums, so gonna let it go...I guess i am young (26), maybe a bit dumb, plenty of things i dont understand (maybe because my major isnt business)...not that i care. But my point was that maybe at the time yes football isnt going to sell for 2K, however, whose to say?--I mean to me their other games have slipped, hockey, baseball, & basketball. So whose to say that there's no market for them to compete with a subpar Madden? To me BB producers have less money than 2k...so i guess i don't understand it, its sounds backwards to say its not cost effective and then you have someone making BB when obviously Madden is back to reaching its peak.

The one thing that you, and everyone else, needs to understand about Natural Motion is that they could care less about Football. Making a Football game is not some passion that they have. They aren't trying to take over EA's turf. First and foremost, their objective is to showcase the Euphoria engine, and they felt that Football was a great opportunity to show what their tech can do. How do I know this? Because, THEY said it.

You can't compare someone making a game to showcase an engine with the end game being to license said engine to as many companies as possible, and who wants to sell games, don't get me wrong, but that is not the ONLY motivation, to someone like a 2K, who would not be licensing their tech, and whose ONLY goal is to sell games. Not even close to being the same.