Madden NFL 11 Blog: Locomotion w/ Videos and L.T. Screenshot

[canes21]

You took it back, thats great. I bought the game in June and almost finished a season, playing every game by the time the real playoffs were getting on the way. And neither was better. Different people like different games. I will always prefer 2k's games over EA because they are always more realist, look smoother, and have better animations in my eyes. That doesn't mean 2k makes great games or EA makes bad games.

And how is spending time and resources to gain a very small profit better for business? Yea, they made money, but its almost not worth it to make a football game without the NCAA or NFL license.

[huskerwr38]

Quote: Originally Posted by Only1LT

Don't get me wrong, the fact that they are addressing the locomotion issue to the extent of scrapping what they had and using an existing better solution is definitely encouraging. Having said that, things aren't as cookie cutter as that. Just because they use FIFA's system and stick it in Madden, doesn't mean that it will just integrate flawlessly without any issue. Furthermore, from what I gather from the blog, they are not just lifting the FIFA system and dropping it in untouched. They are adding their own flavor to make it fit what they think is the best implementation. That could be a very good thing if done correctly, or it could be a worse proposition than just leaving it alone. This isn't an anti EA/Madden/Ian & Co post by any means. I just think it is a lot more complicated than saying there is no possible way that this can't work, because they are using tech that already works in another implementation. Way too early to say what the outcome of this will be. That goes for both the positive and the negative arguments. Only one thing you can say at this point is that SEEM to be taking this issue seriously enough to take this action.

You're right that it's too early to say based on the outcome. But, I'm just more confident that this will be working better, or at least how I think it will like FIFA, than their usual patch work of fixes. I'm not that optimistic about how well the catch debugging tool will be to fix catching, but I am very optimistic about the new locomotion technology because it has been used in FIFA and it's phenomenal. That's all.

[huskerwr38]

Quote: Originally Posted by AnyGivenSunday

Thanks. That is exactly why I think the locomotion will be very much improved on. I've heard nothing but, good/great comments on Fifa's locomotion system even though I've never played it but, have watched some friends of mine play. I agree since Its completely different proven technology on a proven EA Sports title, I'll choose to believe that the locomotion will be a lot better(not saying the whole game will be but, this could be huge) than M10. If Fifa's technology can't help madden then I don't know what will. I'm skeptical about the wide receiver blog so that is still a wait and see. I don't choose to believe every single thing a dev writes(been let down to many times) but, I got a good feeling about this new locomotion technology. No doubt M10's movement was better than 09 so hopefully Ian and Co. get one of the most core aspects of football done right this year. This looks promising so don't let me down. No pressure, no pressure.

Exactly my thoughts, which I posted pretty much the same thing before I even read this post. Great minds think alike huh?

[nuttyrich]

Quote: Originally Posted by achain

Where have I heard this song and dance before about how great locomotion is going to be in this year's game.... Oh wait, that's right. It was a promised "feature" of Madden 2009. They even made this fancy video to show it off.... http://www.videogamer.com/videos/mad...n_trailer.html Gotta love rehashing. Boy, I sure hope they get it right this year :\

Hilarious always broken promises. Didn't EA celebrate their Madden 20 year anniversary.. and yet 5 years into next gen we still have the same crap.

I excused Madden '06 because we knew it was rushed and very little time, even '07 you can say they're building it from the ground up.. okay '08 will be great.. NO '09 will be amazing.. NO.. '10 should be at it's peak... NOPE!

Just because it works in FIFA doesn't mean it will work in Madden, they are 2 different sports, same as people will find out with backbreaker the technology can only take you so far it works great (Europhia Engine) with GTA and a few other games, but when applied to football.. it just doesn't come out right.

While this MAY be a step in the right direction, we should of been there a LONG time ago. I don't see how locomotion will fix the running game the clipping and everything else.

I hope for all of us it does bring a BIG change, Madden needs it badly it's very stale this many years into next gen.. we deserve a QUALITY title.

[Only1LT]

Quote: Originally Posted by huskerwr38

You're right that it's too early to say based on the outcome. But, I'm just more confident that this will be working better, or at least how I think it will like FIFA, than their usual patch work of fixes. I'm not that optimistic about how well the catch debugging tool will be to fix catching, but I am very optimistic about the new locomotion technology because it has been used in FIFA and it's phenomenal. That's all.

I understand what you are saying, I'm just saying that there is no guarantee that it works anywhere near as well as it does in FIFA(never played FIFA so I'm just going along with those that say it's great). Not trying to put a damper on your optimism, but to me this is analogous to a someone seeing a celebrity with a haircut that they think is spectacular and that they think if they get the same haircut it will look just as spectacular on them, even though the shape of their heads and the proportions of their faces are totally different. Great doesn't always translate to great, but here's hoping.

[Only1LT]

Quote: Originally Posted by Pacman83

If they did, they'd still be making football games.

Someone doesn't get it.

[Only1LT]

Finally had a chance to look at the vidz after getting home from school. Thankfully they were not choppy like at work. I must say, that they must have done something in the area of improving the way that the animations are displayed because they were much more fluid. The animations were pretty much the same as what we have seen in the past, but the annoying robotic herky jerkiness of the movements were greatly lessened.

Hopefully this is something that is really being addressed and not just confined to the presentation, but I have to give credit where it's due. The increased fluidity was very welcome.

[Pacman83]

^^Maybe its you that doesn't get it.

Read my other posts to get where i'm coming from.