Madden NFL 11 Blog: Locomotion w/ Videos and L.T. Screenshot

[+Chris+]

Quote: Originally Posted by nuttyrich

Why do the show these screen shots when the game LOOKS nothing like this "during game play". So EA adds Locomotion.. they do this every year throw one feature in and break another. How about getting the basics down first... like a FUN game? Then work on the rest. Terrible blocking running and Qb animations have plagued this since it went next gen, fix the current problems first. This is the same crap every year, some "major new feature" never addressing the CORE play itself! Madden 2012 Hit stick 3.0 will be the new feature

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[Valdarez]

Quote: Originally Posted by +Chris+

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Running pretty much is as basic as you can get with regards to the game of football. IMHO, getting this right is step one to making a good football game.

[lofeazy]

Good Fix.

[splff3000]

I'm trying, I really am trying... I am really trying to get excited about this stuff, but I just can't. I've heard them say they fix sideline catches before. I've heard them say why sideline catches are fixed before. I've even seen videos of sideline catches before. Likewise, I've heard them say they've fixed locomotion before, specifically momentum, acceleration, and turn radius. I've heard them explain how they've fixed it before. Also, just like the sideline catches, I've seen video of the fixed locomotion before. The problem is, I have never seen any of these things in the game when the game comes out. With these first 2 blogs, I feel like we're in a "been there, done that, bought the T-shirt" mode. I've seen all of this stuff before and even though the proposed fixes for these annual problems are different, the rhetoric remains the same.

I'm gonna say the same thing about this blog that I did about the sideline catches blog....... it shouldn't have happened. I mean seriously, how are you going to do a blog about fixing/improving something and then a year later do a blog on the same thing that you supposedly fixed/improved on last year? They should have just fixed it and let us be pleasantly surprised when we saw video of it. That way, if for some reason it gets cut before the game's release, no one will be as upset as they will be if either of these get cut now. It's obvious that these are 2 difficult problems to fix ( seeing that it's been 20+ years and they still aren't fixed), so why not just fix them, if you can, and not bring it up every year. Now what's going to happen if, like last year, they have to cut either one of these things?

I know some of you aren't going to like this, but IMO, they should just do away with the blogs....at least until they are able to show us what feature / improvement they are talking about IN-GAME. That way they can be confident that the feature / improvement works correctly and doesn't break the game. That way, the devs can rest easy because they know that the feature / improvement that they are blogging about is already in the game so they don't have to worry about fitting it in. The consumers would benefit also because they wouldn't be getting false info.

**sigh** I guess I'll have to wait until we see actual game footage before I can get my hopes up. Anyway, judging from the pattern of the first 2 blogs, I should assume that the 3rd blog will be either on OL/DL interaction and how pro tak allows them to fix it or it's gonna be on WR/DB interaction where they'll show us how good CB's jump routes, good WR's run great routes, and how we'll have WR/DB jostling. **sigh** I feel like I'm in Back to the Future or something.

[huskerwr38]

WOW....what really popped out to me was how HUGE the football is that LT is holding. It looks like a rugby sized ball. I can't believe I didn't notice that before.

[Crimsontide27]

Past history has shown me to look for the negatives before the positives when blogs and videos such as these come out. Lets not forget that with the majority of new features added to these titles, that it brings with it a lot of changes that are not good for the game.

Most recently, look at " Wide Open Gameplay". It was heralded as a major innovation until we played it and realized it should have been called " Wide open Defense" . They tried to address the problem of recievers getting YAC's by effectively slowing the defense way down so it had no time to react. What started out as a postive turned out to be a huge negative.

What we do know is that the defense is watered down in many aspects in both NCAA and Madden titles. Just imagine a high acceleration WR or TE burning you on each and every play because the defensive AI doesnt adjust. All passes on crossing patterns are an automatic completion as it is now, so wouldnt this just make it worse?

Lets look at the blocking for a minute. The offensive line has zero logic when it comes to blocking as it is now, creating a greater speed / accel disparity between players can compound this problem greatly. If you have a high accel back, chances are it will be very easy to out run your blocks the moment the ball is handed off, resulting in ever worse blocking logic than we have now. You would have 2 choices...stand still when you get the ball, or take off...either way, resulting in no blocking once again.

Locomotion sounds like a great concept at first, but its going to have to rely on many other aspects of the game improving at the same time.

Vids and graphics are nice, but I am "very" skeptical that they can pull this off without some huge gamebreaking issues creaping up. Murphys Law states that anything that can go wrong, probably will and Im very nervous about what all aspects of the game this will break, instead of fix.

[nygmen92]

Quote: Originally Posted by Valdarez

Running pretty much is as basic as you can get with regards to the game of football. IMHO, getting this right is step one to making a good football game.

Exactly.. Couldn't agree more.. Valdarez on the spot again..

[lolfalconsbeatu]

whats the point of being upset about the blog? Whether you read it or not, buying the game or not -- it is what it is.

And just the fact that they are addressing it, its improvement.