Madden NFL 11 Screenshots and First Details (IGN)

[lolfalconsbeatu]

Quote: Originally Posted by Only1LT

In real life the offense has the advantage, so why should a sim be any different. They know the route, they know the timing, and they know the adjustments to make based off of any coverage they are shown, because they practice them to death. Let's not forget that WRs, by and large, are more skilled than DBs. Many DBS are failed WRs. I don't care what defense you are talking about. 85' Bears. 2000 Ravens. 2002 Bucs. Steel Curtain. Whoever. You will not play man all game and have any chance to win unless you are getting a great rush on the QB. Zero. There is a reason why they say that any QB with time will pick you apart, because it's true. Aside from a handful of people in the history of the NFL, a DB can not lock his man down for more than a couple seconds. Now I went off on a tangent I know, and my original point wasn't that I felt that the DBs had a huge advantage on 10, just that the propensity of dropped balls off of a ridiculously moronic animation that is not even physically possible, is totally unrealistic, and I don't like the sound of them saying that they are focusing on making even more animations to knock the ball out. If it is done in a realistic fashion then fine, but I have little confidence in that based on last year, that's all. I will tell you what is realistic. If you play man and you don't get to the QB, you will get carved up like it's Thanksgiving and Christmas morphed into one holiday. Not saying that there are no issues with man to man on 10, but I think that most people have an unrealistic expectation of DBs being able to lock down the man in front of them. If it has to be broken one way, I'd rather it be that man hardly works then that it is overly effective. Not realistic. In real life, even when they blitz, teams still use a lot of zone. Jets had the best D statistically last year, and their D got undressed by Peyton Manning in the playoffs. Why? No pressure.

ok me and you are on the same page for the most part than.

You are correct about the offense naturally having the advantage over a defense in real life. But what about the the dude online who runes drags the ENTIRE game and my DB just doesn't get it? Oh and than all of a sudden runs a slant? Or that 5 yard out route that cant be stopped because the user can turn it into a RC(rocket catch)?

I guess what I'm really getting at, is where is that "Adaptive Awareness" that was suppose to not allow you to run the same plays Over and Over without even stretching the field? I know you mention before the backflip animation that the WR does when going deep is ridiculous (and it really is)...but im pretty sure you have adjusted your game to run 5-10 yard routes to get you by because you know the "Adaptive AI" that the DBs were suppose to have are a joke, and you cant go deep..so it is what it is...

All I'm saying is that the DBs do need to get better and knock more passes down ESPECIALLY if the same plays are being ran. If dude keeps running drags, slants, and hitches, my DBs should cheat and shut down everything underneath if my opponent refuses to go deep.

Sorry for going on a rant, after promising I wouldn't -- but in a nutshell, the DBs need to be smarter, period.

[kjcheezhead]

I like that they chose this for their first info because gameplay is easily one the worst parts of this game to me and I'd rather have this than a screen shot showing animated shoe strings and hand warmers.

I also gotta say I'm not that excited about it tho because I heard all this stuff before....many,many,many....many times. August will be the test of whether I buy the game or not but this did nothing to improve the odds that I will.

[lolfalconsbeatu]

Quote: Originally Posted by splff3000

Whoa!! You're not playing on All Pro and you're complaining about the defense? I don't normally say things like this, but you need to bump it up to All Pro or All Madden, then complain. While, I don't think it's as hard as Pantherbeast said it was to complete a pass, it is definitely more difficult than Pro or rookie.

lol I am playing on all-pro. I don't play anything but online ranked matches, so my bad if I wasn't clear in my post...but the DBs do not scare me on All-pro or all madden. I've got some money players (not cheating plays), but normal slants, drags, and hitches, and that "adaptive ai" didn't seem to really kick in this yeah, imo...

[Pringles]

if that is what madden 11 is going to look like i am not impressed
first the field still looks washed out ? were are the dark colors ? or the different types of fields and there own unique look.

both madden and ncaa suffer from cartoonish look with washed out colors and too dark. pop in all pro that is what the uniforms and dynamic lighting should look like.


the ball still looks off too big and plastic looking
the bodies look the same and by the animation they showed us my guess is the running mechanics will not be improved.
.00001 chance i buy it.

[Bgamer90]

Quote: Originally Posted by JerseySuave4

No i didnt expect something crazy for 1st release of info but i also didnt expect something that they said was in the game 2 years ago. I expected them to maybe mention something about the playbooks or something along those lines but this is something that should have been in a long time ago.

I don't see this as just "we are fixing problems with sideline catching". This sounds much more like it's for multiple situations. You can always make something better than how it was previously so the "I heard it all before" mindset isn't the same as mines.

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And people complain about stuff not being in because a lot of it is stuff that was either in or should be in by now that was either removed or still hasn't been added. When they tell us about something like this years ago, and finally now actually get it in the game, we have a right to be pissed. I shouldn't sit back and say well at least they finally got it in. Thats just a piss poor job and laziness by them for saying it was in before but only now getting it right.

I guess I was just raised differently then lol. I will get mad if something isn't added and if it is taking a long time for it to be added but when it is finally added, while I may think "it's about time", I'm not going to get mad. I mean really... what's the point? If you are going to act the same way as you did before then they might as well not even put it in the game.

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I had the same attitude you do for the past few years. I sat back, waited for the good stuff, bought into the little things they were saying to us and thinking that was a sign that they were really moving in the right direction but 5 years later we still have a mediocre football game.

That's all subjective. While M10 does have problems I don't find it to be mediocre. It took a lot of leaps and was the first Madden this gen that I played franchise mode for more than one season.

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MLB the Show has baseball done right, NBA 2k10 has basketball done right, Fifa has soccer done right, yet the most popular game in the U.S. and we're still stuck with a mediocre representation from what is supposed to be one of the top developers for one of the biggest franchises around. There is no excuse for EA to continue putting out such a mediocre football game, none.

All those games still have problems... NBA 2k10 definitely (I have that game). I guess what I don't get is how people find issues with Madden 10 but yet at the same time are so hard pressed to find issues with other games or games in the past that are viewed as "some of the greatest sports games of all time".

[PantherBeast_OS]

Quote: Originally Posted by adub88

Ditto, I don't care if they're just screens or not. That looks like same ugly animation that is in Madden '10. I'm not even buying the game until I see some fluid animations and not robotic looking animations. 2k5 still has better animations, why can't we do better in 2010? I just don't understand.

Am I one of the few people here that is not judging madden 11 already on the first bit of info we just got today. Why do I get the feeling that Ian and Phil be finshed with posting here this year around before they get started. I'm sure Ian is already scanning OS post and deciding wheather to post here this year are avoid OS altogether and just post on twitter instead. I wouldn't blame him one bit. People need to layoff and relax and allow Ian to come on here and interact with us without been mobbed by people who are unhappy about madden and the info we are getting. Please people chill out and don't judge on the first bit of info you see please.

[Bgamer90]

Quote: Originally Posted by swiftychampleone

Not to encourage negativity, but I feel where he's coming from. The last good Madden was 05 and I haven't bought one since then. It's like waiting on a person that's running late and when they show up it's like, "About time!" You know how it is, man.

Nostalgia!


While 05 was good, I don't get how ones could say "I'm sick of suction issues, sick of super DB's, etc." when 05 had these issues much worse than 10 does.

Quote: Originally Posted by green94

Graphics look like they took a hit to me, hopefully that means the sidelines and crowds got some much needed attention this year. Any info in March is good for me.

Really? Graphics actually look the same to me. No real improvement but we'll see how things really are once more pics start to pop up.

Quote: Originally Posted by adub88

Ditto, I don't care if they're just screens or not. That looks like same ugly animation that is in Madden '10.

Were those pics .gifs?

Quote: Originally Posted by Pringles

if that is what madden 11 is going to look like i am not impressed first the field still looks washed out ? were are the dark colors ? or the different types of fields and there own unique look. both madden and ncaa suffer from cartoonish look with washed out colors and too dark. pop in all pro that is what the uniforms and dynamic lighting should look like. the ball still looks off too big and plastic looking the bodies look the same and by the animation they showed us my guess is the running mechanics will not be improved. .00001 chance i buy it.

lol ::facepalm::

::walks away from computer::

[killgod]

Talk is cheap. Not being a troll, just calling it like it is.

There was a blog on the very same subject last year and we saw nothing but problems with this in the game.

I need more than a blog and screens to prove this works and works well.