MLB '10: The Show - Franchise Issues Update

[VitaminKG21]

Quote: Originally Posted by Dreifort

SCEA has come close, that's what makes it so successful IMO. Again, just my belief personally... but look at failed success in the past? If SCEA plays to the graphics to try and win over arcade baseball gamer vs baseball fans who enjoy good graphics but love franchise/realistic baseball aspects... the series will die IMO. High Heat was supposed to be the game that ended it all to be all that and a bag of chips. It was...for it's short life. Then suddenly, not only was the franchise/realistic baseball aspects sacrificed for graphics -- they ****ed with the menu navigation to resemble console navs to make a crossover to consoles(reminder this game was a PC game primarily) and they limited any management aspect. That very release they did that, the series never recovered and the series died along with the company behind it, 3DO.

I never played High Heat, but I agree that as soon as a sports game maker decides to completely ignore the hardcore base, it's doomed.

This is not what SCEA has or is doing, I'm just hoping they can make it even better than it already is instead of burning my like the NCAA Football crew.

Sorry, that was a cheap shot.

[Jdurg]

Quote: Originally Posted by Dreifort

SCEA has come close, that's what makes it so successful IMO. Again, just my belief personally... but look at failed success in the past? If SCEA plays to the graphics to try and win over arcade baseball gamer vs baseball fans who enjoy good graphics but love franchise/realistic baseball aspects... the series will die IMO. High Heat was supposed to be the game that ended it all to be all that and a bag of chips. It was...for it's short life. Then suddenly, not only was the franchise/realistic baseball aspects sacrificed for graphics -- they ****ed with the menu navigation to resemble console navs to make a crossover to consoles(reminder this game was a PC game primarily) and they limited any management aspect. That very release they did that, the series never recovered and the series died along with the company behind it, 3DO.

You should probably go back and read your history books. 3DO was already a dying breed, but High Heat was one of their only "successes", if you could even call it that. Compared to other sports games released at that time, it was pretty dismal in terms of sales. Changes were made, not because they wanted to, but because they had to. The company itself was dying fast and unless they could appeal to a greater market, they would have died off three or four years earlier.

[Pared]

Quote: Originally Posted by VitaminKG21

Don't get me wrong here Pared, I'm sure they spend a crazy amount of time working on franchise mode and I would never say it's been completely ignored. - SNIP -

No, you're completely right. How many times do you look on the back of the box of a sports game and see, "New Franchise features with realistic trades!"

Still, from what I've seen and discussed, they don't go always untouched. I know that wasn't the case here and in a few other games.

Edit - Guys, let's not try and go too far off track. I don't want to have to lock the thread because we have gone very off-topic as it is.

[GoBucs09]

Quote: Originally Posted by Pared

Edit - Guys, let's not try and go too far off track. I don't want to have to lock the thread because we have gone very off-topic as it is.

You aint kidding! I'm happy I vented my frustration, unfortunately it was at your guys expense.

I think someone posted a new bug in the last 3 or 4 pages but we (I) buried it. oops

[ARMORALLL]

Truth is the more new things sony adds to the game, the more problems there are to fix along the way. I remember last year people were complaining about MLB 09 and now people are saying it played much more smoothly. No game is ever perfect but I hope with enough patch work the game can be playable the way it has been.

[Dreifort]

Quote: Originally Posted by ARMORALLL

Truth is the more new things sony adds to the game, the more problems there are to fix along the way. I remember last year people were complaining about MLB 09 and now people are saying it played much more smoothly. No game is ever perfect but I hope with enough patch work the game can be playable the way it has been.

I think most of the new additions to MLB10 are in good working order...it's previous functions/abilities that worked fine in MLB09 are now buggy in MLB10.

[tabarnes19_SDS]

You know one thing that I think is over looked here and shows that these guys do listen to us.......In a thread were we were discussing franchise issues I brought up how major leaguers were getting sent down with out having to pass through waivers. Kolbe wrote that those guys had options left, per the place they get it.

We showed him that players with more than 5 years of service could not be sent down without having to pass through waivers.

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...s-pics-12.html

I made a suggestion as a fix to give all players with more than 5 years service all options used....

Latest update all players I have looked at have 3/3 for options if they have played more than 5 years.

Great work!!

[bigjake62505]

With deadlines to meet I just dont believe there is enough time to test the franchise mode the way it needs to be tested. Imagine every team must be tested over multiple seasons, throw in roster moves, training, attendence, budgets and everything else. I have total confidence that they will fix everything they can, read that again, FIX EVERYTHING THEY CAN. This game has gained so much momentum over the years gaining new players every year and there is a reason for that. The Show is a great game, its the only reason I bought a PS3 and there are a 1000 other post's by those who have done the same.