EA Sports Plans To Digitize Madden 11 Consumer (IGN)

[killgod]

Quote: Originally Posted by Joborule

Sorry that this is completely out of context in where discussion is currently, but I had to respond to this since I went to the said event. We didn't even get to know about Online Franchise until you guys did since that feature was held back from us knowing then. Ian and Phil said they couldn't talk about online features yet and will announce them around E3 time. So I'm interested how you got this quote since it's more then likely false.

bring it up with those who were there.

the pm was saved but no longer exists because maddenmania no longer exists.

if he doesn't care to admit ian told him this as he explained to me, then so be it. not a big deal to me if you believe it or not, it's what i was told and that's all there is to it.

take it or leave it.

[splff3000]

Wow!! This thread is full of firsts for me. This is the first time I've disagreed with KJcheezhead. Having said that.....

Quote: Originally Posted by kjcheezhead

Think about how many sales Madden is losing now to gamestop trade-ins. Weigh the loss of 360 owners who wouldn't upgrade there systems to be able to download vs the sales losses they are losing on all their games right now. Going digital probably would make them more profitable.

Most years, I would agree with this, but 10 was not traded in as much as the previous versions of the game (probably because it was HALF decent). Do I have a chart to tell me this? nope. I did, however, drive to 3 different gamestops in my area looking for it used months after I traded it in and couldn't find it. One gamestop employee said they don't get too many in and when they do, they go pretty fast. Now that may be that particular gamestop, I don't know, but I do know I had a devil of a time trying to find a used copy. Luckily I found someone selling it on craigslist for the cheap. To assume that people would just upgrade their systems to play Madden is a false assumption, especially after the rep it has gotten the last few years as just a roster update to a bad game. I don't think most people would be willing to upgrade their system just for Madden. They'd probably just not play it. Now if other FULL games started being "digital download only" then they may do it, but most people I know wouldn't do it. Hell, most people I know wouldn't buy madden at all if they couldn't get it on EBAY or buy it used.

Quote: Originally Posted by kjcheezhead

I'm not sold on that. I agree this is very close to a monopoly. If the only way you could get an NFL video game was to buy it new as a download, plenty of consumers would simply do this. I agree EA needs to focus on their products, but why should they? Promise enough to get the purchase, take away the ability to trade-in when people find out the product doesn't work and collect your money. On another similiar note, what if patches become DLC? People who hated Madden 10 (me) held onto the game to December for the patch. What if with Madden 11 they delay releasing the patches on purpose to prevent trade-ins on the discs? Or promise 3rd or 4th patches for $5 bucks a pop. Wouldn't that also be a way they could further take advantage of us without forcing us to download the game just yet?

I am in no way an EA apologists(look at my previous posts lol), but we can't get into what ifs. What if I had a million bucks? I wouldn't be concerned with EA trying to take advantage of consumers. Let's kep the what ifs out. Having said that, I highly doubt you would ever have to pay for patches since they "fix" things that are broken in the game. That would be like me selling you a toyota and then charging you to fix the accelerator that gets stuck. I don't think that would ever happen.

[Valdarez]

Quote: Originally Posted by splff3000

Most years, I would agree with this, but 10 was not traded in as much as the previous versions of the game (probably because it was HALF decent). Do I have a chart to tell me this? nope. I did, however, drive to 3 different gamestops in my area looking for it used months after I traded it in and couldn't find it. One gamestop employee said they don't get too many in and when they do, they go pretty fast.

I agree with you on this one. I have bought Madden used since 2005 and the NFL Exclusivity deal. I typically buy NCAA when Madden is released for $25 off eBay, and then wait roughly 4 week and pay $25 for Madden. This time I waited 2 to 4 weeks (sorry don't know exactly) after Madden was released and still had to pay $35 for NCAA, and I waited until mid-October to buy Madden and had to pay $35 for Madden. Used game prices in general are up, but IMHO this is a sign of the economic times, where folks are trying to save money because it's true across the board for used games, not just Madden. If you need proof, GameStop's had one of their biggest years last year, and that's not due to GameStop's 'quality' service or prices, I'm sure many here have had negative GameStop experiences to one level or another (typically with preOrders).

As for the person's comment on Peter Moore being an excellent capitalist. Peter Moore is the perfect example of an exec who cares nothing for his customer base. He showed that at Microsoft, and he's continued the trend at EA Sports. He'll make the company money, but screw over the gamers in the process. EA Sports image was tainted by the NFL Exclusivity deal and continues to be tarnished with Peter Moore at the helm.

[kjcheezhead]

Quote: Originally Posted by splff3000

Wow!! This thread is full of firsts for me. This is the first time I've disagreed with KJcheezhead. Having said that..... I am in no way an EA apologists(look at my previous posts lol), but we can't get into what ifs. What if I had a million bucks? I wouldn't be concerned with EA trying to take advantage of consumers. Let's kep the what ifs out. Having said that, I highly doubt you would ever have to pay for patches since they "fix" things that are broken in the game. That would be like me selling you a toyota and then charging you to fix the accelerator that gets stuck. I don't think that would ever happen.

Lol, nice to know someone agrees with me most of the time. My wife would probably advise against it tho.

I guess I said "what if" because how do you prove a company is doing that? It took til when, December for patch #2? I know I held off on trading it in on the hopes that patch might save the game for me. It was half decent like you said. Still bothers me to think they would have a patch ready and hold onto it for a month like an ace in the hole and I can see them charging for 3rd or 4th patches. They just wouldn't be called patches anymore, they'd be "upgrades".

[Joborule]

Quote: Originally Posted by killgod

bring it up with those who were there. the pm was saved but no longer exists because maddenmania no longer exists. if he doesn't care to admit ian told him this as he explained to me, then so be it. not a big deal to me if you believe it or not, it's what i was told and that's all there is to it. take it or leave it.

It's easy to fabricate stuff on the forums. So I'm not going to talk about it any further, but I'm fairly certain that the person who claimed to know back at community day didn't know. Either that or your making stuff up.

The best grasp of knowing about the feature then is when Phil asked us to guess what the feature was without confirming or denying if we're right...

[killgod]

Quote: Originally Posted by Joborule

It's easy to fabricate stuff on the forums. So I'm not going to talk about it any further, but I'm fairly certain that the person who claimed to know back at community day didn't know. Either that or your making stuff up. The best grasp of knowing about the feature then is when Phil asked us to guess what the feature was without confirming or denying if we're right...

Well I'm not saying this if is truth or not, simply repeating what he told me in the PM.

What he did say certainly fits the EA/Peter Moore attitude, so is it possible for truth? Well, why not?

Ask an OS owner if they can access the old MM forum data, I'd bet my life and everything I own against it being told to me. Probably a fair amount of work over something trivial, but I assure you it was said. He could have just been blowing smoke for all I know.

Check with your "bros" from CD, maybe someone will admit to saying it, maybe not...again I don't care if it's admitted or if you believe it. It doesn't neccessarily mean it was annouced to all the guys who went to the CD, it was told in confidence to him from what I recall the PM stating.



What do I gain from making this up? I'm not on some tirade claiming it's true, just stating what he told me, nothing more. I'm not deathprovider77 running a hate parade against EA.

There's nothing in it for me to make something like this up, but whatever bro, say what you will.

[mmathaifighter]

If the game was good enough how quick would people be to trade in the game? I NEVER have a problem finding a used copy of Madden or Live. Finding used copies of the EAs NHL games or Sonys MLB The Show series is an entirely different story.

The point is that if the game is high enough quality people will keep it and continue to play it(NFL 2K5) whether or not the season is over. Maybe EA should focus as much attention to turning out high quality product as they do trying to syphon money out of players pockets.

[ZoneKIller]

So now that we know the main features for Madden 11(assuming) Wonder what plans EA has to keep the disc in the consoles?