Major League Baseball 2K10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

[Altimus]

I'm really not seeing this jaggy problem and when it comes to AA I have a really sharp eye. Not saying they're not there but I don't think it's anything like past years. Plus it is has been mentioned that the retail is smoother around the edges.

[Bob Digital]

Quote: Originally Posted by kcxiv

If thats what they had to do to cut out lag thats an extremely small price to pay. I am just glad the game runs smooth...

Right, but it has nothing to do with disc space like the other guy said. It's like a " view / draw distance " setting in a driving game or first person shooter.

It seems to me the graphics engine doesn't push the 360's hardware as much as it could. That is really what is limiting this game's graphics. Things like low resolution shadows and low crowd draw distance seem to be a sign that the graphics engine can't push what the developers wanna push without sacraficing things.

For instance, you know the developers wanna put more cloth physics into the game, but they can't if they want the game to run at a solid 60 frames per second.

[kashmir28]

Quote: Originally Posted by Bob Digital

It seems to me the graphics engine doesn't push the 360's hardware as much as it could. That is really what is limiting this game's graphics. Things like low resolution shadows and low crowd draw distance seem to be a sign that the graphics engine can't push what the developers wanna push without sacraficing things. For instance, you know the developers wanna put more cloth physics into the game, but they can't if they want the game to run at a solid 60 frames per second.

Exactly. Whoever looks at this demo and thinks it on par with other 360 releases visually are kidding themselves. Better than 2K9? By a mile, but thats it. Visually, this game is a step above the community modded MVPs. This long into the 360's console life, I expect recurring titles to be both visually maxed to the 360 limits and run smoothly. I just don't feel that 2K10 demo/game will fulfill that. That being said, gameplay and fun factor can always compensate for other areas.

[RealmK]

Quote: Originally Posted by Bob Digital

Right, but it has nothing to do with disc space like the other guy said. It's like a " view / draw distance " setting in a driving game or first person shooter. It seems to me the graphics engine doesn't push the 360's hardware as much as it could. That is really what is limiting this game's graphics. Things like low resolution shadows and low crowd draw distance seem to be a sign that the graphics engine can't push what the developers wanna push without sacraficing things. For instance, you know the developers wanna put more cloth physics into the game, but they can't if they want the game to run at a solid 60 frames per second.

Its the limits of using what is esentially a last gen core engine with layers of spit and polish. The core engine can't handle it without making the game studder/lag (hense MLB2k8-2k9) and other titles in 2k's sports catalog since the move to the current gen systems. It won't change til the next systems come out at this point. 2k obviously decided the cost/time wasn't worth it this gen unfortunately.

[kcxiv]

What multi-plat sports games push it though? it sure in the heck isnt NBA Live or Fifa. The crowds in Fifa 10 look terrible. The game looks ok but it runs smooth. NBA2K10 Looks good, but crowds took a hit this year. Stadiums are awesome. To me NHL on both systems look just ok, but not great. Madden looks terrible once you snap the ball.

The only game that is a sports game that really pushes anything that i have seen is single party game and thats what The Show? They only have to design for 1 platform.

Maybe, just maybe the companies arent trying to push graphics because it causes a whole hell of alot of issues.

[kashmir28]

Quote: Originally Posted by kcxiv

The only game that is a sports game that really pushes anything that i have seen is single party game and thats what The Show? They only have to design for 1 platform. Maybe, just maybe the companies arent trying to push graphics because it causes a whole hell of alot of issues.

True. Sort of like Comcast offering crappy HD quality though my set can handle much, much more. Bandwidth issues/limitations for them isn't worth it. Consumer gets the short end.

Still, even the games you mentioned look better or have looked better than MLB 2K series recently. Hell, if 2K10 looked like NHL 10 or NBA 2K10, I'd be pleased. If the gameplay and experience is on par with those, I'll be buying, graphic limitations or not.

Quote: Originally Posted by NFCBeast55

You guys are ridiculous. Who cares what is happening in the upper deck? I don't see these little jaggies either. What I see is a massively improved game that I could see myself spending a lot of down time playing and enjoying.

How fantastic for you. And, some of us see cardboard cutout fans in the upper decks and jaggies.

But before you get your panties all up in a bunch, had you been reading this thread from the start, you'd see I was one of the people who immediately pointed out how much 2K has improved this game, and how I will be buying two baseball games this year.

I'll tell you what I find ridiculous... the fact that we can't really enjoy the demo but still point out some of it's flaws without being jumped on.

[jinc1019]

The demo looks good. As I mentioned in another thread though, I am a little worried about the fact that mlb 2k demos usually look much better than the actual games. With that said, I have high hopes for this game and I was BLOWN away with the presentation!