Mike Wang Returns to 2K Sports: NBA 2K Series (ESPN)

[spankdatazz22]

Quote: Originally Posted by sambf12

people are missing the point i think. it's not that wang leaving could be taking the series in the wrong direction, it's the decisions (probably strictly business) being made by those higher up. this is what can make or break a series. while wang was and is obviously important, it is obvious he's not making the ultimate decision of which way the series goes. even if he did, he may not necessarily be right.

Agreed. It's funny reading some of the comments, because it gives off a "Mike Wang was responsible for all that was perceived right with Live, and everything that was perceived wrong with 2K was because he left". I don't understand this need to assign a product's success or failures to one person and the need to play to the extremes with everything (something's either great or putrid). NBA2K was getting progressively more successful while he was there, and it's successes continued to progress after he left. It could be argued the game garnered even more of a foothold on NBA videogame basketball when they were competing directly against him when he was w/Live.

[navyboy09]

Quote: Originally Posted by FootballForever

If 2k indeed sold 2 million copies, they just proved 2k didn't even need Wang, not sure what terms Wang left on, but after selling 2 million copies without him, I would have say thanks but don't really need ya, Sorry Wang..

So you honestly gone say since they sold 2 million copies they don't need him? Of course they gone sell alot b/c they have alot of fans who knows it gonna be a good game and is going to buy the game anyway.

I feel 2k8 was the best in the series so far b/c it had the best control and feel to the game and that was the last 2k game mike worked on. By him comming back to 2k i think and HOPE 2k will go back to the 2k8 days as far as overall control.

Alot of people commend mike b/c when it comes to making a bball game sim he is one of the best, and to me i think if you want to have the best basketball game it have to be sim. But not everybody is like that and thats why i think ea don't really want to go in the same direction as one of the most sim gameplay designers in the business. They rather have a game that the average person can just pick up and start playing and wouldn't care about all the little stuff that makes the game feel authentic to real life.

Just my 2 cents.

[BrianFifaFan]

Quote: Originally Posted by navyboy09

So you honestly gone say since they sold 2 million copies they don't need him? Of course they gone sell alot b/c they have alot of fans who knows it gonna be a good game and is going to buy the game anyway. I feel 2k8 was the best in the series so far b/c it had the best control and feel to the game and that was the last 2k game mike worked on. By him comming back to 2k i think and HOPE 2k will go back to the 2k8 days as far as overall control. Alot of people commend mike b/c when it comes to making a bball game sim he is one of the best, and to me i think if you want to have the best basketball game it have to be sim. But not everybody is like that and thats why i think ea don't really want to go in the same direction as one of the most sim gameplay designers in the business. They rather have a game that the average person can just pick up and start playing and wouldn't care about all the little stuff that makes the game feel authentic to real life. Just my 2 cents.

That's my fear and has been the track record. And a poor attitide/vision, IMO....

[Rocky]

Quote: Originally Posted by BrianFifaFan

That's my fear and has been the track record. And a poor attitide/vision, IMO....

That's kind of ridiculous. There needs to be both. Of course, games cater to casual gamers...but their also needs to be tools for simheads like us to capture reality. It's all about balance.

2K is straight up lying when they say that all they care about is making the best basketball sim.

[BrianFifaFan]

Quote: Originally Posted by Rocky

That's kind of ridiculous. There needs to be both. Of course, games cater to casual gamers...but their also needs to be tools for simheads like us to capture reality. It's all about balance. 2K is straight up lying when they say that all they care about is making the best basketball sim.

My inference is that has been the history of how EA weights it's priorities. I'm not really feeling the mass market appeal as the number one priority. I say build the game as a great representation of said soprt and offer AI helps. I'm only speaking from a gamer's POV. Could care less about the realities of games as a business. But, in defense of my viewpoint, all of the leading sports games right now, bar none, have embraced authenticity as a cornerstone of their vision. Just hoping that both the NBA game teams really takes that to heart and build games worthy of the sport they represent. "Build it and they will come!" BTW, love the Rocky 4 quote. I watch the marathon of Rocky movies every time it comes on! Brian

[ataman5]

Quote: Originally Posted by Rocky

2K is straight up lying when they say that all they care about is making the best basketball sim.

It's damn straight obvious well said.

[RunN1st]

"No more yanky my wanky - the Wanger need food!"

Oh, boy. The happiest guy is probably the dude that that took his place and will be clueless for the next year! Also, 2K really needed him back... that Ronnie character is overwhelmed and in over his head. IMO

[jmood88]

Quote: Originally Posted by mniner2003

"No more yanky my wanky - the Wanger need food!" Oh, boy. The happiest guy is probably the dude that that took his place and will be clueless for the next year! Also, 2K really needed him back... that Ronnie character is overwhelmed and in over his head. IMO

Ronnie isn't a developer.