2K Sports Signs All-Star Lineup to Promote MLB 2K10 this Season w/ Video

[Artman22]

Quote: Originally Posted by EnigmaNemesis

Judging by recent events, VC picking up the development in house seems more to do with 2K's financial situation more than anything.

I don't think that was the case with KUSH.

[EnigmaNemesis]

Quote: Originally Posted by spankdatazz22

Maybe, but it gets taken too far. A guy created a thread just to say he was preordering the game, and look at how many people couldn't bite their tongue and had to say something negative. Doesn't seem to be too much constructive about that, all it does is discourage anything positive being discussed. All the guy said was he was preordering the game. I can understand wanting to voice displeasure about a purchase, but at the end of the day people should acknowledge their responsibility as a consumer to do due diligence.

You took one sentence out of what I said, out of context... and just repeated EVERYTHING I said in the same post.

I said it has to remain civil with proper discourse and be constructive.

Quote: Originally Posted by EnigmaNemesis

Ones should be allowed to vent their displeasure if it is done in a constructive manner. And it seems that is getting harder and harder lately, And that is sad. All about proper discourse, that is all.

[EnigmaNemesis]

Quote: Originally Posted by Art1bk

I don't think that was the case with KUSH.

All the signs are there that this was more a financial decision, now that all the info came out with them dropping games, studios, layoffs etc.

Consolidation. Seen it with many big publishers, EA to MSFT.

[Knight165]

Just my thoughts...
I don't think that it's the negative comments as much as
-repeated....same comment over and over anywhere it can get heard
-a direct attack on a member or a dev
-the condescending tone that some posts take on
-usually a post that say...."such and such is not changed?!...that's just RIDICULOUS(when it's usually something hoped for...by that one or maybe even many people...but not in the devs case)...which usually makes the post a little insulting.

It's not the negative comments but the lack of decorum.

M.K.
Knight165

[Pared]

Quote: Originally Posted by EnigmaNemesis

Agreed, You don't get results unless you voice your displeasure about things. And the words "troll" are thrown around too loosely around here. I see legitimate complaints being torn down as trolling, and sometimes it is not right. Especially when the person who is being called it sometimes, is far from a troll by post history. You can't complain your displeasure on the 2K boards anymore, because you will get banned and deleted threads instantly. That kind of censorship is not cool. You want less complaints and more praises, make a better a product, it is as simple as that. Ones should be allowed to vent their displeasure if it is done in a constructive manner. And it seems that is getting harder and harder lately, And that is sad. All about proper discourse, that is all.

This has absolutely ZERO to do with this thread.

If you guys want to continue to make "state of the union" type posts in a thread promoting a video, the posts will get addressed.

Cut it out.

[NumberOneRB]

Quote: Originally Posted by Pared

This has absolutely ZERO to do with this thread. If you guys want to continue to make "state of the union" type posts in a thread promoting a video, the posts will get addressed. Cut it out.

I don't think there was anything wrong with EnigmaNemesis' post. I think he was professionally and cordially explaining that the only way 2K is going to prevent continued criticism towards their games is by making a better game, and by LISTENING and even communicating with knowledgeable fans to gain insight on what needs fixing.

I've also seen some examples of the post-deletion issues he brought up concerning the 2K boards. I also think your last statement was a bit harsh if directed at posts similar to the tone used by EnigmaNemesis. What do you want people to comment about in this thread? The video/thread practically brings no significant info to the table regarding gameplay elements and how much better this game will be compared to the last.

This thread is about 2K making an announcement that they spent "X" amount of dollars to get a group of MLB players to advise the developers on making a better game (potentially). I think most are seeing this as a waste of their financial resources, which I would have to somewhat agree. Would it be better to suggest and assume that Felix Hernandez will fix the issues of the CPU AI pitchers never throwing balls and constantly painting corners? Should we suggest and assume that signing Justin Morneau will prevent the CPU from swinging and making contact on every pitch?

I think once people saw this announcement, they began to perceive that 2K was wasting money on professional players' "name value" rather than using it towards improving gameplay elements (allegedly). Once the criticism began, some questioned their severity. I believe EnigmaNemesis was simply trying to explain that certain forms of criticism are necessary and helpful in motivating developers to make a better game, and it just depends on the severity and constructiveness of said criticism.

[kcxiv]

Quote: Originally Posted by NumberOneRB

I don't think there was anything wrong with EnigmaNemesis' post. I think he was professionally and cordially explaining that the only way 2K is going to prevent continued criticism towards their games is by making a better game, and by LISTENING and even communicating with knowledgeable fans to gain insight on what needs fixing. I've also seen some examples of the post-deletion issues he brought up concerning the 2K boards. I also think your last statement was a bit harsh if directed at posts similar to the tone used by EnigmaNemesis. What do you want people to comment about in this thread? The video/thread practically brings no significant info to the table regarding gameplay elements and how much better this game will be compared to the last. This thread is about 2K making an announcement that they spent "X" amount of dollars to get a group of MLB players to advise the developers on making a better game (potentially). I think most are seeing this as a waste of their financial resources, which I would have to somewhat agree. Would it be better to suggest and assume that Felix Hernandez will fix the issues of the CPU AI pitchers never throwing balls and constantly painting corners? Should we suggest and assume that signing Justin Morneau will prevent the CPU from swinging and making contact on every pitch? I think once people saw this announcement, they began to perceive that 2K was wasting money on professional players' "name value" rather than using it towards improving gameplay elements (allegedly). Once the criticism began, some questioned their severity. I believe EnigmaNemesis was simply trying to explain that certain forms of criticism are necessary and helpful in motivating developers to make a better game, and it just depends on the severity and constructiveness of said criticism.

Ok, so they dont ask for a few players to help them. What do they spend money towards for develompental costs? do you know how many people are working on the game? do you know how they actually do it? I think once they said they had about 88 people working on the NBA title. What if they have around 70 or so or even 88 working on MLB? Throwing money at the something isnt always the solution. Getting a few years under your belt making a new game for them is the solution to the problem.

We all know EA throws money at everything and it doesnt always work just look at Madden. They threw money to get some people from OS to go down there and half of the stuff never made it into the game that was supposed to be there. Looks great from a marketing standpoint right?

Until we know how many people are actually working on the game all we are doing is taking out of our behinds. If i am wrong please correct me.

[Pared]

Quote: Originally Posted by NumberOneRB

What do you want people to comment about in this thread?

Again, a "state of the union" post has nothing to do with 2k's marketing efforts. Zero.