NBA 2K10 Patch #2 Details

[Pared]

Quote: Originally Posted by RayAP19

What does that have to do with me? If I can't accomplish that desired result, what do videos do for me? I'm not asking for anything I wasn't either promised or should expect (a little CONTROL over the game. That's why tendencies are there. They oughta actually work). I know what this game needs to make it a far better simulation, which is what it says on the box-- I have my doubts that 2K wants to or is capable of making a good sim.

In other words, you want the tools to create a game and tailor it to suit your tastes. In other, other words, you want to be a developer, but you don't have a handle on the system in place.

Yet you continue to make claims such as "have my doubts 2k... is capable of making a good sim."

I've never seen someone make such pompous claims on this forum as you do repeatedly. (Actually, that's a lie) That's not a slight, but rather an indignation of the comments where your take is the right one. It's a viral mindset that has permeated your comments over the past few releases.

I have no idea why you put yourself through so much angst. I would have dropped it and moved on long ago.

[RayAP19]

In other words, you want the tools to create a game and tailor it to suit your tastes.

You act like the things that I want are outrageous or esoteric. I don't know why, but you do.

but you don't have a handle on the system in place.

Elaborate.

I have no idea why you put yourself through so much angst. I would have dropped it and moved on long ago.

What can I say? I got a basketball jones. -_-

[Pared]

If you can't get the game to do what you want it to do, in what way is that reflection on a patch being released to fix issues with a game? The two don't coincide completely. This isn't about a freeze that needs to be fixed to continue on in your season, but rather you fulfilling a need to tinker with the game to get it to do what you want, whether it be in the realm of possibility.

And sometimes, you just can't. There's not much more to elaborate other than that. You can't. That has nothing to do with a patch, the game developers and their creation. You will never have the tools to truly do what you seem to want to do, aside from getting a degree in software development and experience in game design.

Seems like you need a create-a-game feature, and that's not something I expect you'll ever see, especially in a patch. Knowing that, why continue to anticipate it?

[RayAP19]

I'm pretty sure that they could make tendencies "stronger" if they wanted to through a patch, which is all I want. I already posted what Rob Jones said about tendencies, and he was wrong. I can't believe I'm being labeled as the bad guy for pointing it out and being upset about it.

BTW, it's not completely unheard of for the consumer to have direct input on game development. I'm pretty sure EA did it for Madden 10.

[Pared]

It's not like this is the first time you've gone out of your way to prove a developer "wrong."

Again, nothing indicated that would ever do something like that in a patch. To expect it is... unrealistic, to say the least.

It's right up there with people holding out hope for custom sounds in the PS3 version. I'm sure that's something you'll see next year.

[RayAP19]

Quote: Originally Posted by Pared

It's right up there with people holding out hope for custom sounds in the PS3 version. I'm sure that's something you'll see next year.

I don't have that same faith for the features that I want and was promised. Next year this, next year that.

And I'm gonna say it again. If they actually interacted with the community, maybe I wouldn't be so "angsty."

[Pared]

Quote: Originally Posted by RayAP19

If they actually interacted with the community, maybe I wouldn't be so "angsty."

I'm sure they do, they just don't interact with you. And seemingly, with good reason.

[STLRams]

Quote: Originally Posted by RayAP19

IMO, to say something like this: The end result is that you get a Kobe, or a Carmelo, or a Paul Pierce that attacks you the same way they would in real life. The way we had it set up before is we knew their ability and we knew what kind of shots they took in terms of they like to shoot mid-range or they like to shoot three pointers, but we didn’t know what type of shot they were actually taking. Do they shoot floaters? Do they shoot fade-aways? Do they shoot leaners? All these little things that end up being the personality of a player is now realized when you play our game. And then not only is this NOT true in the final product, but no one on 2K's staff says as much as a single word about it despite complaints from the fanbase, and NONE of the patches fixes it is absolutely ridiculous and makes me loathe the fact that I spent 60 bucks on this game.

This is true, I mentioned this stuff to the 2KInsider on his blog to properly adjust player tendencies to reflect how often players shoot and play a certain way and he just won't do it. He will answer questions about headbands, socks and attributes boost, but if you ask him about tendencies he ignores it. I hate that everytime I download living rosters I have to do this myself for star players. Its a night and day difference how realistic and great the players play after these adjustements.