Madden NFL 10 Patch #2 Available, Impressions Here (360)

[JMD]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

Yes, they are different. The other difference is that pre-snap controls will not show up on hardcore. You need to do them by memory.

This is not true, on the 360 anyway, in Hardcore mode just pull the left or right trigger for the pre-snap menu, it's there. Turning the pre-snap menu off and on is done in Settings /Visual feedback.

The only difference I have seen between Hardcore and Advanced is no replays, no rewind option, and the game is not any more difficult to play on one or the other. Maybe someone from EA can explain exactly what the differences are.

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by JMD

This is not true, on the 360 anyway, in Hardcore mode just pull the left or right trigger for the pre-snap menu, it's there. Turning the pre-snap menu off and on is done in Settings /Visual feedback. The only difference I have seen between Hardcore and Advanced is no replays, no rewind option, and the game is not any more difficult to play on one or the other. Maybe someone from EA can explain exactly what the differences are.

My bad, I thought it was different from Hardcore to Advanced with pre-snap controls. I guess what I meant was that Advanced has the pre-snap controls on the screen where Hardcore you need to press a button to bring them up.

Is that part true?

[bomza]

Help! Since patch one and two my smooth frame rate is gone!

XBox 360 - Am I the only one seeing this? I am currently running the game from the hard drive and it doesn't seem to help.

(BTW, you won't see this much in practice mode, but in the game it happens all the time on outside running plays.)

No more smooth frame rate. I run a lot of running plays and pitches right and left, and ever since patch one (and it's still there with patch two) the runner hiccups or hesitates when running at a 45 degree angle and it is really noticeable at times. 1-2-3 hiccup, 1-2-3 hiccup, 1-2-3 hiccup... before I even get to the line of scrimmage on a pitch or sweep.

Since we probably are not going to get a patch 3, I was wondering if there was anything I could do to improve things. Play at a faster speed, adjust the player speed slider or something... Anything...

Otherwise after patch two (with the exception of some constant really bad in or out-of-bounds calls by the refs now) I'm really enjoying the game. I've scanned this thread, and I don't see any mention of it. It's so obvious at times I can't believe no one else is seeing this. Or is everyone who plays Madden pass-happy?

[Bgamer90]

To be honest the framerate is exactly the same as it was pre-patch to me.

[bomza]

Well I rebooted, and I'm running from the disk now and I immediately noticed the running plays were smoother. I only noticed it on a couple running plays when going back to my saved franchise and it wasn't near as noticeable. In this game I also mixed up the plays more and didn't call as many runs.

Could it have anything to do with any of the following?

Free disk drive space
Playing numerous multiple franchise games
Using the rewind feature

Just curious if anyone else is experiencing this hiccup on tosses and pitches to the outside (with blockers in front) in running plays where it seems to briefly hesitate every second or so.

[SA1NT401]

Quote: Originally Posted by bomza

Well I rebooted, and I'm running from the disk now and I immediately noticed the running plays were smoother. I only noticed it on a couple running plays when going back to my saved franchise and it wasn't near as noticeable. In this game I also mixed up the plays more and didn't call as many runs. Could it have anything to do with any of the following? Free disk drive space Playing numerous multiple franchise games Using the rewind feature Just curious if anyone else is experiencing this hiccup on tosses and pitches to the outside (with blockers in front) in running plays where it seems to briefly hesitate every second or so.

Everyone has the same issue....Was done on purpose believe it or not....

[o Mass Murda o]

Quote: Originally Posted by bomza

Well I rebooted, and I'm running from the disk now and I immediately noticed the running plays were smoother. I only noticed it on a couple running plays when going back to my saved franchise and it wasn't near as noticeable. In this game I also mixed up the plays more and didn't call as many runs. Could it have anything to do with any of the following? Free disk drive space Playing numerous multiple franchise games Using the rewind feature Just curious if anyone else is experiencing this hiccup on tosses and pitches to the outside (with blockers in front) in running plays where it seems to briefly hesitate every second or so.

its progressive fatigue. ull only see it when the guy is tired and mostly happens on runs that open up downfield when ur holding turbo. its the effect of ur guy being tired and slowing down on a long one. it just looks crappy the way it stutters, thats all. youll also notice he'll be getting subbed out in the next play or the one there after. it seemed more pronounced after patch 1. it looked 20x worse in ncaa 09 tho. the guys foot would hang in mid air and not touch the ground as he hiccupped and stuttered down the field. maybe next yr they can clean it up even more to make it less visually noticeable

[mr_president]

Quote: Originally Posted by o Mass Murda o

its progressive fatigue. ull only see it when the guy is tired and mostly happens on runs that open up downfield when ur holding turbo. its the effect of ur guy being tired and slowing down on a long one. it just looks crappy the way it stutters, thats all. youll also notice he'll be getting subbed out in the next play or the one there after. it seemed more pronounced after patch 1. it looked 20x worse in ncaa 09 tho. the guys foot would hang in mid air and not touch the ground as he hiccupped and stuttered down the field. maybe next yr they can clean it up even more to make it less visually noticeable

..then progressive fatigue is broken because i see it everywhere,

-1 st play of the series...check
-when a back is subbed in...check
-dives...check
-sweeps...check

the other problem with it(progressive fatigue) is that it doesn't have an effect on the defense...