Madden NFL 10 Patch #2 Available, Impressions Here (360)

[DGuinta1]

I am amazed when playing online, there are rarely any penalties called.

[bomza]

Quote: Originally Posted by joejccva71

You can't throw toward the sidelines because it will be an incomplete pass even if its caught inbounds.

Quote: Originally Posted by RavensFan2k3

i been hearing this alot recently...was this present before the patch too?

I played a lot of games before the patch, and I don't recall seeing any bad sideline calls. Now, after the patch, while most sideline calls are still correct, I've seen three really bad calls now where the ball was caught inbounds but ruled out of bounds.

Flats are covered a lot better, running hesitation is still there and is worse if you run at an angle. Replays are longer but still cut off at the goal line on close calls. (Ball spins in replay on 360 but not PS3) Earlier I posted a video of an obvious goal line score where it was ruled NOT a touchdown. Haven't seen the ball go through the receiver yet, so it appears that was fixed, but I still see the occasional player morph tackle.

Is it better after the patch? Generally, yes. It seems to play smoother. Runners aren't able to run through a pile of tacklers as often. Kickoff returns for TD's while harder after patch one still seem too easy even at All-Madden. But the more I play and the more it draws me in, the more likely I am to come across the irritating things that make me wonder if anyone was seriously testing Madden 10 for any reasonable length of time, or if they all were just racing to meet their deadlines and hoping for the best. You keep wondering to yourself, "How could they allow that in the game? How could someone NOT see that?" Didn't they realize that seeing the same two chain gang or goal line cutscenes would become repetitive after just a few games? Why do we still have no way to button through them or turn them off?

If you are willing to sit through the same repetitive cutscenes, accept the occasional morphing, accept some close touchdowns not being called touchdowns, and accept that all completed passes near the sidelines may not be called completed passes, then you will enjoy Madden 10 after the patch.

As you can tell, I still have quite a few issues with it.

[sportyguyfl31]

The zones that are supposed to cover the flats..now generally cover them, althought you still see the occasional glitched out animation.

Pursuit angles now look better as well

[JMD]

After playing 10 or so play now game to get my sliders right after the second patch, all in all I'd say the game play in improved. My last 5 of the 10 play now game were much more competitive then before the patch. Beofre the patch I rarely if ever lost to the CPU, out of my last 5 games I lost 3 of them.

I finaly started my Chiefs franchise, only 4 months after the games release, I still have a few things that bug me and I'd like to see fixed for Madden 11.

1. Run Blocking, Maybe I can tweak this with the sliders, but I'm still seeing lineman looking very confused as to whom they should be blocking. Several times I've seen a lineman not even block anyone and I get nailed for a loss.

2. I usually play on Hardcore, but sense I've finally started a franchse I decided to play on Advanced so I can get the replays. The replays are horrible, player movements look awkward, and the camera need to be zoomed out more, it's way to close.

3. Challenge the play system. This is broken in my opinion. To many times I challenge the call and the CPU gets it wrong , mostly on WR's feet being in or out of bounds. Also we need to be able to more accurately choose what we are challenging. I honestly do not understand why EA can't just look at 2k's challenge system and use that, it's better and it works. I'm a professional drummer, if I see another drummer do a certain fill better then I do , I will use that to improve my playing, same thing, put the ego aside and make improvents.

4. Penalty system. I've played a lot of games pre patch and about 12 post patch and I have never seen pass interference called, even with the sliders set to 100. Way to many face masks and no pass interference, I have even hit the WR early on purpose, no call.

EDIT: I can't believe it , I just saw my first PI call. All I had to do was poat about not ever seeing one and I get a call. Nice. Maybe it's because I'm playing franchise games instead of play now games, Never saw one before.

Other then those 4 things, I'm good with the game at this point. I'm only one game into my 1st season in franchise so I may find more, but all in all at least I can now enjoy playing the game.

One more thing, I like the Extra Point weekly wrap up show.

[johnkorean]

Haven't played in a couple months, but I have a general question about some of the problems people are still noticing after patch 2. It seems like a lot of the remaining issues (blockers not knowing who to block, bad calls on sideline catches, etc.) could be considered intentionally random simulation of "human error." Personally, I feel that if this stuff is intentional, it's brilliant. After all, if you see crappy refereeing on Sundays, then it should be in the game, right?

Does anyone have any idea if this might be what they're going for, or is some of this so outrageously egregious that it has to be a glitch or simply poor programming?

[TheCreep]

I dont notice too much of a difference. I mean, I really didn't have a big problem with the game pre patch though.

The main thing I notice thats STILL there, is the hidden entity that likes to keep games unnaturally close lol. Will I ever see a 1st or 2nd quarter score of 21/14 - 0 or what?

I've yet to see (CPU or my team) get past 1 touchdown without the other team scoring before it can be done.

Oh, and still wondering will it ever snow in Cleveland.

Other than that, I really do like this game.

[johnkorean]

Quote: Originally Posted by JMD

I'm a professional drummer, if I see another drummer do a certain fill better then I do , I will use that to improve my playing, same thing, put the ego aside and make improvents.

It might not be an issue of ego; it might be an issue of copyright law. Programming code is subject to copyright law as much as a book is.

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by JMD

4. Penalty system. I've played a lot of games pre patch and about 12 post patch and I have never seen pass interference called, even with the sliders set to 100. Way to many face masks and no pass interference, I have even hit the WR early on purpose, no call. EDIT: I can't believe it , I just saw my first PI call. All I had to do was poat about not ever seeing one and I get a call. Nice. Maybe it's because I'm playing franchise games instead of play now games, Never saw one before. One more thing, I like the Extra Point weekly wrap up show.

I've been harping on the penalty system for years. I couldn't believe after the patch I played two back to back games and once in each game a PI was called. I had to set the controller down as I've never ever seen this happen at all since I started playing in the early 90's.