Madden NFL 10 Patch #2 Available, Impressions Here (PS3)

[joejccva71]

I'll ask again in case folks missed it sifting through thousands of pages.

Has the ball morphing through other players (namely other receivers) while being thrown the ball been fixed???

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by joejccva71

I'll ask again in case folks missed it sifting through thousands of pages. Has the ball morphing through other players (namely other receivers) while being thrown the ball been fixed???

I'm curious, did you see this in real time or in replays? Before the patch, I would have to replay the play to actually see the morphing of the ball through other players.

[KBLover]

Quote: Originally Posted by sportyguyfl31

I'm more concerned about user vs user. User vs user pre patch is a game of screen, drag, flat, slant..and you had to manually over commit to cut these routes off. Ideally, Id like to mix things up manually along the trenches, and if I have a defense called that should reasonably limit the %'s of these routes being completed, can I now trust that my defenders will attempt to make the plays that they shold be in position to make.

I don't play online, but since you can only control one guy, the AI is handling the rest.

I would say that the hook zones are better. I've seen the AI control players (meaning both on my and CPU team as I play on the DL and don't switch) jump routes like drags/ins from their hook zones.

I think zone defenders are more ball aware now, especially if they have high AWR. A high AWR MLB seems like a mid-zone weapon now, and not just for making leaping INTs.

[KBLover]

Is anyone else seeing more jumping catches from the WR? I had a throw to Harvin last night that was high and instead of him just trying to run to it over the shoulder, he jumped for the ball and came down with it for a completion and the defender ended up missing the hit on him (when into his missed tackle animation).

Heyward-Bey tried one along the sideline, had it, got hit, but lost the ball as he hit the ground.

Also the game before that Brandon Marshall made at least 3 reaching up/jumping catches in the game against him and was generally annoying.

Other times recievers go up for the ball and get hit and can't hold on.

These are all the AI controlled WR. I didn't switch to the receiver.

I'm not sure what's triggering this more often, but it seems to be happening more than I ever remember it happening before patch 2.

[joejccva71]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

I'm curious, did you see this in real time or in replays? Before the patch, I would have to replay the play to actually see the morphing of the ball through other players.

Considering that in real time when you throw the ball it's too far to see the moroph, this is what I'd do.

I'd do a pass play and it would LOOK like the receiver dropped it, so I'd do a replay up close in slow motion and see what happened, and it usually turned out that the ball would just morph directly through the hands of the receiver causing an incomplete pass.

Hell, sometimes it would morph through my receiver and into the hands of a DB causing an interception. Let me tell you how many broken controllers I have after that.

It happens.

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by joejccva71

Considering that in real time when you throw the ball it's too far to see the moroph, this is what I'd do. I'd do a pass play and it would LOOK like the receiver dropped it, so I'd do a replay up close in slow motion and see what happened, and it usually turned out that the ball would just morph directly through the hands of the receiver causing an incomplete pass. Hell, sometimes it would morph through my receiver and into the hands of a DB causing an interception. Let me tell you how many broken controllers I have after that. It happens.

Ok, that's what I thought. I had a questionable plays that I looked at in replay and the ball morphed through the receiver.

I remember Ian once saying that it was almost impossible to catch this happening in real time, more likely on replays.

It will be interesting to see if it's fixed. I don't have time to look at replays over and over as the game takes an hour to play w/o them.

[countryboy]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

Ok, that's what I thought. I had a questionable plays that I looked at in replay and the ball morphed through the receiver. I remember Ian once saying that it was almost impossible to catch this happening in real time, more likely on replays. It will be interesting to see if it's fixed. I don't have time to look at replays over and over as the game takes an hour to play w/o them.

its not fixed. It happens in replays due to them being compressed.

[bomza]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

Ok, that's what I thought. I had a questionable plays that I looked at in replay and the ball morphed through the receiver. I remember Ian once saying that it was almost impossible to catch this happening in real time, more likely on replays. It will be interesting to see if it's fixed. I don't have time to look at replays over and over as the game takes an hour to play w/o them.

Quote: Originally Posted by countryboy

its not fixed. It happens in replays due to them being compressed.

Arghhh! Sorry, guys. I have a great deal of respect for the both of you, but this subject still infuriates me.

Roadman, you don't have to look at every replay. Simply play a lot of games with a team whose receivers are not that great at catching the ball. (I play with the Bucs.) Before patch 2, in the game eventually you would see a ball travel through your receiver to be intercepted by a DB directly behind him. It is IMPOSSIBLE for this to happen unless the ball travels through the receiver. If he simply drops it, he will drop the ball in front of him or at the very least deflect the flight of the ball. Ian used carefully chosen words to try and imply it was not a problem before, (he had not himself seen it) or that (he was told) it only occurred in replays.

However, in a recent blog they came out and admitted it happened in "rare" circumstances. Well, if it happens only once a game I suppose it is rare, but it totally could affect the outcome of the game.

I will take them at their word that when I get my Xbox 360 patch 2 that this will be fixed. But it was NOT just a replay problem, due to their own admission in their blog that it was there but "rare".