NHL 2K10 Patch List

[RealmK]

Quote: Originally Posted by Scottdau

So what you are saying are Devs lie? Interesting!

More like misleading as they esentially have been since the move to next gen, between the lack of marketing and all the info you generally do pry out is either vague to begin with or doesn't pan out to be the case. Now I'm sure you'll bring up EA here and comeback logic since thats kinda what you do on a regular basis but really Scott this isn't about EA so don't bother.

The suits at 2k need to make a decision, either can the series like they did College Hoops due to a lack of sales and not wanting to renew a license based on lack of sales, or give NHL2k the funding, marketing and support post ship to compete and overall just make a better hockey game already.

[Scottdau]

[quote=RealmK;2040464561]More like misleading as they esentially have been since the move to next gen, between the lack of marketing and all the info you generally do pry out is either vague to begin with or doesn't pan out to be the case. Now I'm sure you'll bring up EA here and comeback logic since thats kinda what you do on a regular basis but really Scott this isn't about EA so don't bother.

The suits at 2k need to make a decision, either can the series like they did College Hoops due to a lack of sales and not wanting to renew a license based on lack of sales, or give NHL2k the funding, marketing and support post ship to compete and overall just make a better hockey game already.[/QUOTE]

Nope I just find the double standard funny! But oh well. I am not going to talk about the other game. I spoke my peace along with everyone else having that same problem.

I actually agree with the bolded part you said!

[adayinthelife]

Quote: Originally Posted by savoie2006

The thing is, people do decide to buy games later alot of times. They will get frustrated and or tired of one game and then decide to buy the other. If the patch is a success and makes the people that already own the game happy, that word will spread when people ask if the game is worth buying. Yeah, the MLB and NBA series recieved patches for the PS3 and yeah they bring in alot more money, but who said that all these games have the same people in charge? Finally College Hoops only went away because the team couldn't afford the licensing, which I'm sure costs more than the NHL.

Very few people buy games later, especially sports games. Most of the people who do pick up games at a much later date pick up used copies of said games, which don't reflect in sales numbers for companies like 2k.

I can see sales having a minor boost at Christmas but that's about it. The only other boost may come at playoff time but again, those would be like 90% used sales.

I was confused back in August when there was such little info on this game. I was even more confused when they made the decision to not release a demo after having such a ****ty year in 2k9, and EA releasing one hell of a demo for NHL 10. I'm now somehow even more confused than that at this decision. It just seems like they do the opposite of whatever seems logical over there..

[RealmK]

[quote=Scottdau;2040464831]

Quote: Originally Posted by RealmK

More like misleading as they esentially have been since the move to next gen, between the lack of marketing and all the info you generally do pry out is either vague to begin with or doesn't pan out to be the case. Now I'm sure you'll bring up EA here and comeback logic since thats kinda what you do on a regular basis but really Scott this isn't about EA so don't bother. The suits at 2k need to make a decision, either can the series like they did College Hoops due to a lack of sales and not wanting to renew a license based on lack of sales, or give NHL2k the funding, marketing and support post ship to compete and overall just make a better hockey game already.[/QUOTE] Nope I just find the double standard funny! But oh well. I am not going to talk about the other game. I spoke my peace along with everyone else having that same problem. I actually agree with the bolded part you said!

Its not a double standard at all, NHL2k sold pretty well on the ps2 and Xbox, the reason the sales have gotten worse since moving to this console generation is 2 fold. The game hasn't progressed all that well, esentially being a last gen port for 2k6 and 2k7, and the marketing has been progressively getting worse every year. No one is going to buy a game they know nothing about, on top of that lack of improvements doesn't help create repete buyers either.

Either 2k gives the series the funds/marketing/support it needs and the 2k NHL team steps it up or the series ends up getting the College Hoops treatment in another year or two. Thats basically the jist of what's prolly going to happen.

Which is why it baffles me when people defend the lack of marketing as "no big deal" I wonder if it'll still be no big deal when we no longer have a choice of hockey titles, because if it keeps going the way its going, I wouldn't be at all suprised to see the NHL2k series canned.

[Scottdau]

I still say if you make a great game people will buy it!

[savoie2006]

We can argue this all day long, but only 2K knows what's going on and why. We can assume and speculate all we want, but that's all it is. I personally feel the series is on the right track finally(thanks to VC). As long as they can continue what they have started, I think the game is gonna be quite solid again. As it is, 2K10 is better than anything Kush released for next gen, so I'm happy.

[Flyermania]

It is a shame that 2k does not communicate with their fan base, both in pre-release marketing as well as their post-release actions (or lack thereof as in this situation). It's all connected, as poor communication/marketing contributed heavily to lower sales, which ultimately weighed in as a large factor to the PS3 getting the shaft again. Not a good way to do business, but that's the bed they made and now they have to sleep in it.

It's too bad as I know several long-time 2k fans (including myself) who consider this to be the last straw. Why should we continue to support them when it isn't reciprocated? Why not communicate with the gaming community and their customers? 2k used to lead the pack as far as customer interaction with hockey gamers...just another area that has taken a nose dive.

[savoie2006]

Quote: Originally Posted by Scottdau

I still say if you make a great game people will buy it!

I concur, look at NBA 2K10. Didn't have near the marketing that NBA Live did, but it still sells better. Most of why 2K Hockey has taken a nose dive lately is, the subpar next gen outings 2K7-2K9, and yes EA. EA's Skill Stick took hockey gamers by storm. That and the overall improvement of the series, has made people think much less of 2K's games. If EA's game hadn't made the strides it has made over the last several years, 2K would not be looked at near as harshly. Plain and simple as soon as 2K starts to steadily improve(should they last that long), the series won't need a heavy marketing scheme. Game support on the other hand, is a must.