NBA Live 10 Patch Impressions (360, PS3)

[mikenoob]

I thought the shooting goes by percentages found in the DNA scouting report. I'm pretty sure a dev has said that.

[Muzyk23]

Quote: Originally Posted by sportyguyfl31

If I come across like a Jerk on these points, then so be it I guess, but I feel like most of this is simply frustration with losing, and people flat refusing to adapt. Ive played about 20 games of dynasty mode, and probably another 20 or 30 play now games..and I dont get slaughtered on the boards routinely by the CPU. There are things you can do with your coaching settings, you can rebound manually. On defense, I play 100% on ball..with no slider adjustments, and I guard to tendency. There is no magic tricks involved. I have run the CPU off of the court, I have barely beat them and I have also lost my share. Ive had a great competitive balance between myself and the CPU..on default all star. I cannot speak to how everyone is playing..but if you are getting hammered by CPU runs routinely, and getting smashed on the boards consistantly, the problem isnt the game...its the user, refusing to adjust the way he is playing.

amen to that

seems like some ppl spend more time complaining than playing the game

[carnalnirvana]

Quote: Originally Posted by mikenoob

I thought the shooting goes by percentages found in the DNA scouting report. I'm pretty sure a dev has said that.

nope, thats a misconception started by some who get hammered online by cheese tactics

[travis72]

Quote: Originally Posted by sportyguyfl31

If I come across like a Jerk on these points, then so be it I guess, but I feel like most of this is simply frustration with losing, and people flat refusing to adapt. Ive played about 20 games of dynasty mode, and probably another 20 or 30 play now games..and I dont get slaughtered on the boards routinely by the CPU. There are things you can do with your coaching settings, you can rebound manually. On defense, I play 100% on ball..with no slider adjustments, and I guard to tendency. There is no magic tricks involved. I have run the CPU off of the court, I have barely beat them and I have also lost my share. Ive had a great competitive balance between myself and the CPU..on default all star. I cannot speak to how everyone is playing..but if you are getting hammered by CPU runs routinely, and getting smashed on the boards consistantly, the problem isnt the game...its the user, refusing to adjust the way he is playing.

Your right as far as I am concerned. Not saying the game is perfect but I thought this game played real well when i bought it Oct. 6. I am praying that ps3 does not get the patch at least yet. I was playing alot in a dry run dynasty practicing until roster were updated. I found it very competitive on all star. I won a few with my Pacers and lost quite a bit but never did I think that it was not my fault. This game plays a lot like real life NBA where runs exist you have to learn how to combat them just like a real coach. Some night you will just go cold from the floor or you will make poor judgements, just like real life. I am hoping EA gets the rosters with the invisible man in chicago fixed so I can start playing again before the patch comes out on ps3 because I dont want to take a chance downloading it and not have OT and all the other issues I am hearing about.

[jrose57]

Quote: Originally Posted by travis72

Your right as far as I am concerned. Not saying the game is perfect but I thought this game played real well when i bought it Oct. 6. I am praying that ps3 does not get the patch at least yet. I was playing alot in a dry run dynasty practicing until roster were updated. I found it very competitive on all star. I won a few with my Pacers and lost quite a bit but never did I think that it was not my fault. This game plays a lot like real life NBA where runs exist you have to learn how to combat them just like a real coach. Some night you will just go cold from the floor or you will make poor judgements, just like real life. I am hoping EA gets the rosters with the invisible man in chicago fixed so I can start playing again before the patch comes out on ps3 because I dont want to take a chance downloading it and not have OT and all the other issues I am hearing about.

Same boat, same boat, I am OK with the game so far until i found out I can cross up anyone with Lebron in fiba, he can get 100 points himself in every posession, I called this game the only b-ball game that I can cheese but I JUST found a way which is no good...I can't isolate with LB anymore since I know is a dunk for sure, and I am scared of the patch too, just like toher ps3 users...

[bakesalee]

I can't put my finger on it, but ever since downloading the patch I'm not finding the game fun anymore.

It felt like the game "rewarded" me for playing sim pre-patch, but doesn't anymore. Example: If I switched to an off ball slasher/jump shooter, called for a screen, got open, called for the ball and put up a 15-foot jump shot just like I see in real life, it was money. Now it feels like a coin toss whether the shot will go through the net or not. This is the persistant problem with basketball video games from the beginning - you can never count on an open jump shot going in, therefore players go for the highest statistical chance of scoring points - a track meet dunk contest.

I was praising the hell out of this game pre-patch - everything just felt right. For the first time in my basketball loving life, I felt like a basketball video game actually played right. Now it just feels like every other basketball game I've ever played - which means an unclear objective of "playing right" and still winning.

Basketball is my favorite sport to watch and to play in real life. But in video games, basketball is usually the sport I never play - can't put my finger on it, but it feels like there's no strategy or chess match going on. Now NBA Live 10 feels like that too.

On a different topic, how come "clear path to the basket" fouls don't result in free throws? Also, it seems if a player gets fouled in a non-shooting situation, but throws the ball up AFTER the whistle blows, the player gets to shoot free throws. WTF?

In my opinion, the only things the patch should have fixed is people being able to have a single player shoot 19 for 40 on 3-pointers, fatigue, and sub issues.

I have also noticed post patch that players who are waiting in the corner for a 3-point shot now come in towards the paint when you draw their defenders away from them. Example, Leandro Barbosa is waiting on the wing for one of his open threes, I (playing as Steve Nash) run into the paint to draw his defender away, and then freestyle pass it to Leandro. Only problem is, Leandro is now running into the paint with me back towards his defender - whereas before he patiently waited on the wing unguarded for an open 3.

I also think the "back down" button (clicking R-stick) should be limited to close to the basket situations. Sometimes I accidentally click down on R-stick while performing dribbling moves with R-stick, and it looks absolutely ridiculous to see Steve Nash in a "back down" stance at half court. This is like Ghost Recon mapping the gun zoom-in button to clicking the R-stick where the R-stick already controlled your camera/looking around. What happens is you run into an opponent by surprise, both of you running past eachother, and instead of turning around to kill or be killed, you're both in zoom in mode, or "panic zoom" by mistake.

[Wiffyjustus]

I'm sure they'll fix the major bugs, so I'm not going to comment about those.

I really loved this game out of the box. Really loved it.

The patch added so many new things... it just feels as though it needs one more patch to refine, tone down and tweak all these new additions.

Devs, you've made an awesome game. Please give it that extra spit and polish it deserves.

Whilst the fixes all look good on paper, I just didn't think it was that broke in the first place.

No more new stuff. You've know got all the parts you need for this year's game. But please, just one more patch to refine it.

Bring back that beautiful out of the box feel. *








* I know it wasn't perfect out of the box, but you know what I mean.

[bakesalee]

I agree Wiffy. Out of the box, the game was great.

I would have been supportive of a patch that fixed straight up problems (fatigue not working, substitutions, J.R. Smith shooting 50 3-pointers online and making 50% of them) - but this patch turned NBA Live 10 into a different game. It feels different, it plays different. That's not a welcome change considering I loved the game.