NBA 2K10 Patch Details Announced PS3/360 (Updated 10/22)

[Rapture_DH]

when will it be released?

[Pared]

Quote: Originally Posted by NINJAK2

I'm sure Pared will be happy about bounce passes by refs during free throws as well.

Hell yes I am. Such a minor thing... thrown into a large group of goodness being addressed.

Quote: Originally Posted by mrnoobie

I really don't see how this patch list will be any different for the 360 version... PC on the other hand has some sound issues and controller buttons being messed up...

...custom...sounds...

[Bornindamecca]

Man, that bounce pass on the free throw thing is like in the movies when a dummy gets three wishes, and wastes the first one on a hamburger.

[no juice]

In reference to the clone be deleted, im wondering if the awards races will magically display what they would have been if the clone was never there in the first place

[Boilerbuzz]

Quote: Originally Posted by L_E_O

Now that's a list! It'll be great if they REALLY fix all of that, but I have to admit I'm skeptical. I hate to be the pessimist here (lord knows there are enough of those in forums these days), but I have to ask the question. How many of these "bugs" did 2K know about before they released the game? I find it extremely hard to believe that all of these things slipped by their QA team before the game was released... mind you that this will be the same QA team responsible for reviewing the patch. So what gives here for 2K? Did they knowingly release the most bug-filled sports title in years just to hit the street date or is their QA department REALLY this terrible?

Why does it matter? What does it change? If they knew about all of these, do you think they would have been able to afford missing their street date? Someone has already posted this, but it bears repeating: sports game developers have a HARD job of putting a "new" game out every year. Most AAA titles have at LEAST an 18 month dev cycle. No really good game I know of has less than a 2 year dev cycle. So, at some point, there's going to be bugs that they feel they don't have time to fix. Knowing what we know about these guys, I can guarantee that some of these were just plain missed by QA.

But asking this question is silly: every developer - games or otherwise - know that their product isn't going to go out bug free. They choose their battles and roll with the punches. But common sense says that they wouldn't ship something intentionally that they feel would HURT their product. To me, the implication would be quite insulting actually.

[Pared]

Quote: Originally Posted by Bornindamecca

Man, that bounce pass on the free throw thing is like in the movies when a dummy gets three wishes, and wastes the first one on a hamburger.

That's a terrible analogy but I still find it humorous. *****.

[Vast]

Quote: Originally Posted by jfsolo

Now if that was here I'd be pissed, because I have higher expectations for folks here, but knowing that that forum is basically a wild animal park, I just read through that thread and LMAO. Now should it be like this, probably not, but for me it was a mortal lock that I wasn't going to start an Association or My Player until after the first patch. Some folks will rage against the machine and curse the design decisions, flaws, and bugs that come with the game out of the box, but I've excepted the reality of the short development cycle. People often call developers lazy, and throw out the "roster update" pejorative, but I think all the companies may actually be too ambitions in what they try to do each year. The need for Marketing to have a couple of shiny new features to hype up definitely takes away from the polish that could be applied to the core gameplay mechanics and A.I. Yes, we are basically paying 60 bucks to participate in the open beta, but no one here at OS should be surprised by this now. So for me, with all the sports developers, 2K, EA, Sony, and anyone else who joins the fray, If I choose to buy their game on the release date then I'm not going to sandblast their game until at least after the first patch. Others can continue to do so, but I'm not sure that its going to change the way things shake out at all. I've accepted this as the new reality of how things work with sports games.

Awesome post bro.
I've felt this way for years. you just summarized it better than i ever could.

Im surprised most of us haven't realized this.

[Pared]

Quote: Originally Posted by jfsolo

Now if that was here I'd be pissed, because I have higher expectations for folks here, but knowing that that forum is basically a wild animal park, I just read through that thread and LMAO. Now should it be like this, probably not, but for me it was a mortal lock that I wasn't going to start an Association or My Player until after the first patch. Some folks will rage against the machine and curse the design decisions, flaws, and bugs that come with the game out of the box, but I've excepted the reality of the short development cycle. People often call developers lazy, and throw out the "roster update" pejorative, but I think all the companies may actually be too ambitions in what they try to do each year. The need for Marketing to have a couple of shiny new features to hype up definitely takes away from the polish that could be applied to the core gameplay mechanics and A.I. Yes, we are basically paying 60 bucks to participate in the open beta, but no one here at OS should be surprised by this now. So for me, with all the sports developers, 2K, EA, Sony, and anyone else who joins the fray, If I choose to buy their game on the release date then I'm not going to sandblast their game until at least after the first patch. Others can continue to do so, but I'm not sure that its going to change the way things shake out at all. I've accepted this as the new reality of how things work with sports games.

WOW... that's an excellent post. Can't believe I missed it the first run through.

It bears repeating: excellent post. Worth quoting again.

You'd expect many to know better here at OS... yet they seem to just refuse this fact. Is it how it should be? No. Is it the reality? Absolutely.

Ignoring this fact is done on purpose, seemingly. We go through the same song and dance every year, no matter the game, no matter the forum.