Madden NFL 10 Patch #2 Details Coming Next Week

[johnkorean]

Quote: Originally Posted by CowherPower

Believe whatever you need to believe. What was the excuse for the declining sales in previous years then? there sure as heck wasn't a "recession" then,now was there. Imo,people are fed up,if you believe Maddens sales (this year) are all due to the "recession"...then I've got some ocean front property in Arizona I would like to sell you.

Keep in mind that, as a previous poster claims, the vast majority of people who buy Madden are parents buying the game for their children. It's much easier in a recession to say "I'm not buying you another Madden. You just got one last year" to a game that comes out every year as opposed to a unique game such as Batman.

It could be gameplay issues. It could be the recession. It could be a number of things.

[GTheorenHobbes]

Quote: Originally Posted by johnkorean

Keep in mind that, as a previous poster claims, the vast majority of people who buy Madden are parents buying the game for their children.

Vast majority? It's just my opinion, but I personally think that's crazy. Or another excuse that doesn't hold any water. Again, just my opinion.

[johnkorean]

Has anyone considered the "EA actually has a disincentive to create the perfect game because if they do, no one will buy any subsequent versions and will just download roster updates instead" angle? This is the internet for Pete's sake! Where are the conspiracy theorists?!?!

[Trevytrev11]

Quote: Originally Posted by johnkorean

Has anyone considered the "EA actually has a disincentive to create the perfect game because if they do, no one will buy any subsequent versions and will just download roster updates instead" angle? This is the internet for Pete's sake! Where are the conspiracy theorists?!?!

It'd be one thing if they were close, but there is so much improvement to be made in almost every facet of the game that this isn't even in the realm of possiblity as of where they are now.

And if this was the case, EA could easily charge only $40 or $50 for annual updates (rosters, ratings, uniforms, playbooks, stadiums, etc) and probably make more of a profit than they are now. If the game was so solid that all they had to put out were these simple updates, think of the money they would save on developmental and production payroll, marketing, printing, packaging, shipping, etc.

[treq21]

Quote: Originally Posted by BlueNGold

Nice post. I agree on most of it. The unfortunate thing is we (the hardcore/sim crowd) are the minority so more often than not the features are going to be aimed at the casual crowd.

And the online gamers. Offline gamers are the LAST ones to be considered. OUT of all my friends who own madden, I am the ONLY one who plays an offline franchise.

[Trevytrev11]

Quote: Originally Posted by terrell2483

Just cause they sold better during the recession doesn't mean the recession isn't effecting it. If it wasn't a recession it would most likely sell more then it did now including more then Madden so that doesn't your arguement about Batman and MW2 doesn't really hold any weight.

How about MLB: The Show? That should be pretty comparable, right? Both are annually released sports titles

For the PS3 version over the first 10 weeks of sales:

MLB The Show 08: 309,852 units
MLB The Show 09: 377,282 units

09 sold about 22% more copies over the first 10 weeks than the 08 version and would have faced the same, if not worse (depends on which economist you ask) economic conditions than Madden. And it also had competition from 2K (though one could easily argue that 2K presented 0 competition).

[jira2004]

I really see why Ian is not on here anymore!

[spankdatazz22]

Quote: Originally Posted by SoxFan01605

The point is these seem to overlooked in ways Madden's glitches never are. I really think most of it is based on reputation over recent years. Some are riding high reputation, some are riding the level of recent years' improvement. All are given the benefit of the doubt regardless of some very comparable flaws.

I would say all the games you noted represent their sport better than Madden represents [football]. I haven't played them all but from what I know and have read I feel comfortable saying that's the case. I think most people are able to take into account what a game is on the whole and judge it's flaws accordingly. I look at it like, if you're in a great relationship and you forget to do something simple like clean up after yourself - no big deal. But be in a bad relationship where your girl is already at the edge, that same little thing is enough to set her off. That's where a lot of football fans are w/Madden imo.

I don't feel it's because Madden's being held to some higher standard, because that's DEFINITELY not the case imo. Even with exclusivity, Tiburon hasn't put to rest comparisons between it and older games - that's pretty ridiculous at this point. I'm pretty sure most fans of the games you noted aren't looking back at older iterations as being equally good or better. That's on Tiburon.